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With Car Dealerships exploiting consumers by selling well over MSRP

Posted on 5/2/22 at 10:39 am
Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
Orlando, Florida
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 5/2/22 at 10:39 am
Why is there not more selling direct from the manufacturer like Tesla? Went to 3 dealers over the weekend and left pissed off at all 3. Charging $8k over MSRP because there are ……….less intellectual people that will pay it. Not sure it will ever come back down with the devaluation of the Dollar………I think its likely MSRP just goes up to meet the demand price.
This post was edited on 5/2/22 at 10:41 am
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 5/2/22 at 10:40 am to
The manufacturer gets paid when the vehicle hits the lot. They have literally 0 incentive to do this


I figured a more......intellectual person would know this.
This post was edited on 5/2/22 at 10:41 am
Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
Orlando, Florida
Member since Jan 2007
29854 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 10:41 am to
Selling twice as many cars is not incentive?
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 5/2/22 at 10:42 am to
Explain how it’s exploiting? You aren’t required to buy that Ridgeline from them.
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
34980 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 10:42 am to
The manufacturer won't knock off 5k if your wife gives them a bj on the test ride.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
35341 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 10:43 am to
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Selling twice as many cars is not incentive?




Based on what data? Will more people enter the car market because they get rid of dealerships? More people start frickin' to celebrate the demise of dealerships, resulting in more future people? Where's the data?
Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
Orlando, Florida
Member since Jan 2007
29854 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 10:43 am to
So now that we know who works at car dealerships……. Lol.
Posted by VolsOut4Harambe
Atlanta, GA
Member since Sep 2017
12856 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 10:43 am to
Car stealerships can go to hell. Outdated business model.
Posted by lsufan1971
Zachary
Member since Nov 2003
18112 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 10:44 am to
,Talked to a Chevy dealer owner a few months ago. He said he has made more money in the last 2 years that he has in 25 years.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
35341 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 10:44 am to
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So now that we know who works at car dealerships……. Lol.




If pointing out flawed logic puts you in the car business, then I guess let me hit the lot
Posted by crimsonsaint
Member since Nov 2009
37247 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 10:47 am to
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The manufacturer gets paid when the vehicle hits the lot. They have literally 0 incentive to do this


I think manufacturers like repeat customers.

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Car manufacturers have begun asking dealerships to take it easy on the price gouging. General Motors made its plea last week and Ford has followed up by reiterating its own concerns during the company’s Q4 2021 earnings report. The Oval is worried that dealer markups are tainting its relationship with customers, with top executives making casual references to the trend back in November. Ford CEO Jim Farley is now telling dealers that they need to cut it out lest they be punished by the manufacturer.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57426 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 10:48 am to
quote:


The manufacturer gets paid when the vehicle hits the lot. They have literally 0 incentive to do this


I figured a more......intellectual person would know this
they would get paid right then if people were allowed to order direct.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
35341 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 10:49 am to
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I think manufacturers like repeat customers.




Who do you think buys the most vehicles from them? And by the most, I mean all
Posted by SuperSaint
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Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 5/2/22 at 10:49 am to
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Talked to a Chevy dealer owner a few months ago. He said he has made more money in the last 2 years that he has in 25 years.
majority of people earned more the last 2 years. Typical earning trajectory for the majority fwiw
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
12379 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 10:49 am to
Stealerships are the Realtors of the car world.

But to answer your question, there's a lot of power in that dealers and the manufacturers don't want to piss them off. Also some states prohibit direct sales (i.e. Texas)
This post was edited on 5/2/22 at 10:50 am
Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
Orlando, Florida
Member since Jan 2007
29854 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 10:50 am to
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explain how it’s exploiting? You aren’t required to buy that Ridgeline from them


I understand how sales work. People are paying these prices, which in itself another issue. But marking up a vehicle 20%, from the manufacturer's recommended dealer price, higher than its ever been marked up in the history of selling cars is exploiting consumers. Just my opinion.
Posted by WilsonPickett
St Amant, LA
Member since Oct 2009
1647 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 10:51 am to
It’s illegal in most states to sell direct to consumer for car manufacturers. Even if it wasn’t most like the layers of shite it puts between them and the consumer when shite goes wrong.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
16295 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 10:51 am to
Dealerships are allocated so many vehicles/models. If they are able to sell them before the hit the lot, they still have to wait in the que to get more cars.

Also, as far as I was aware of dealerships always priced over MSRP as this gave them additional wiggle room, and more profit for those that don't negotiate. With the way cars are moving, and limited supply, where is the incentive for them to change?
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
35341 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 10:51 am to
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they would get paid right then if people were allowed to order direct.



And would have to open repair/servicing facilities, hire staff and provide benefits to man them, not be able to use the dealer as a middleman in a dispute, etc.


I'm sure grandpa would love to drive 12 hours to his nearest Ford servicing facility for a recall.


Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
94856 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 10:53 am to
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Also some states prohibit direct sales (i.e. Texas)

I think all but 11 states prohibits direct sales
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