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re: Wisconsin police release deadly shooting of police and paramedics trying to help a man
Posted on 6/18/19 at 10:13 am to EarlyCuyler3
Posted on 6/18/19 at 10:13 am to EarlyCuyler3
quote:And to beat that disease right there all one has to do is be a good, responsible person.
Anyone who tries a substance can become addicted
I truly don’t believe that your brain has been hijacked and forces your body to put drugs into it.
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Posted on 6/18/19 at 10:14 am to ReauxlTide222
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I truly don’t believe that your brain has been hijacked and forces your body to put drugs into it.
So you don't believe in science
Posted on 6/18/19 at 10:14 am to VABuckeye
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Why isn't it policy to quickly check people that OD for weapons prior to administering Narcan?
I saw "The Death of Stalin" too. That shite was hilarious.
Posted on 6/18/19 at 10:16 am to ReauxlTide222
Yeah, like I said, I figured you were going to go down that road. I'm sure you're right; you understand more about it than the doctors, therapists, people who are sober now, and the researchers who've spent countless hours on the issue.
You've single-handedly changed my mind. Let's kill 'em all.
You've single-handedly changed my mind. Let's kill 'em all.
Posted on 6/18/19 at 10:17 am to AU_251
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I have watched my sibling destroy their life for the past 17 years. She is the most selfish POS I know... she loves drugs. She has had more chances at help than anyone in this world.
Tell me, where in this equation should I feel sorry for her
You will feel sorry for her one day.
Posted on 6/18/19 at 10:21 am to LNCHBOX
quote:Forget the addiction conversation for one moment..
So you don't believe in science
No, I don’t believe in every goddamn thing that science pumps out or agrees on. That’s such a lame response when someone disagrees or questions something. I guess science is batting 1.000, ay?
Anyways, I believe that people have the choice to put drugs in their system or not. I don’t care what you label addiction. It can instantly be treated or maybe even cured in some cases by caring about being a quality person over getting high.
Posted on 6/18/19 at 10:21 am to Jimbeaux
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The rank and file heroin users aren’t the ones needing narcan. It’s mostly those experimenting, pushing the high farther, using fentanyl for the kick (not just for the cheap), etc.
Anyone that uses heroin habitually will require narcan or die at some point. It's just how it goes.
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You see heroin dealers carrying and selling narcan along with their “TNT”, or other designer named high powered mix. It’s part of their “sales tactic”.
I think you've been watching too much TV
Narcan is an open script in a lot of states so addicts can buy it at will (they just don't because why spend their money on it). The reason so many people are dropping out now is because of the unannounced introduction of fent to heroin. Addicts are also chasing the high, so the dealer with the most potent shite is the most popular. Which is usually the guy cutting it with 75% fent these daysPosted on 6/18/19 at 10:23 am to ReauxlTide222
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With Houston wounded and the shooting over, officers were able to take him into custody, where he later died at a local hospital.
Woah.
Did he die from a gunshot or did the narcan wear off and he died from that?
The drugs probably also wore off, i would assume blood loss
Posted on 6/18/19 at 10:24 am to 19
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I saw "The Death of Stalin" too. That shite was hilarious.
That shite was great.
Posted on 6/18/19 at 10:25 am to EarlyCuyler3
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I assume that this is an attempt to try and discredit the medically accepted concept of addiction being a disease.
How is it discrediting?
First of all, the statement of “medically accepted” is a claim to authority that is vacuous. Medical opinions vary and change over time on all sorts of complex conditions, especially those involving behavior and cognition.
Calling addiction a disease is, simply stated, a half truth, and furthermore has no real clinical benefit.
It’s a disease? Fine.
A disease like cancer? Or like bi-polar disorder? Or like obesity? Or like herpes?
Every disease has a different treatment modality. Some involve almost purely behavioral modification techniques, others require surgery, medication, or other therapies.
Arguing over whether drug addiction is a disease or not is simply pointless.
Posted on 6/18/19 at 10:25 am to EarlyCuyler3
quote:I never said anything about killing them
You've single-handedly changed my mind. Let's kill 'em all
I’d like to treat it more like an evacuation notice when a hurricane is approaching. In some high risk areas the government lets you know that if you stay, they will not be sending you help. Before you stay, you absolutely know the consequences and can decide to take your life into your own hands or not.
That’s how I feel about drug addicts.
Posted on 6/18/19 at 10:25 am to gatorrocks
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The ole "you ain't smart enough to discuss this with me, boi" retort.
Because you aren't
Posted on 6/18/19 at 10:26 am to Ed Osteen
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and I genuinely believe you are an idiot and like clockwork, the retards run to downvote me. yeah man, every addict deserves to die. frick saving lives
Feel however you want.
They are hurting themselves. They are hurting their families. They are hurting their communities. And as this case proves, they are hurting those trying to save them from themselves.
Posted on 6/18/19 at 10:26 am to ReauxlTide222
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Forget the addiction conversation for one moment..
No, I don’t believe in every goddamn thing that science pumps out or agrees on
That's not what we're talking about here.
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It can instantly be treated or maybe even cured in some cases by caring about being a quality person over getting high.
Yep, it's that easy.
Posted on 6/18/19 at 10:27 am to ReauxlTide222
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It can instantly be treated or maybe even cured in some cases by caring about being a quality person over getting high.
Funny how every person with actual experience in addiction disagrees with you.
Posted on 6/18/19 at 10:27 am to 50_Tiger
Well I’m
Glad they don’t stop using it. I’ve been hit with Narcan about 6x unfortunately. I’m still alive because of it directly. And it gave me a shot to turn my life around.
Glad they don’t stop using it. I’ve been hit with Narcan about 6x unfortunately. I’m still alive because of it directly. And it gave me a shot to turn my life around.
Posted on 6/18/19 at 10:28 am to oleheat
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And as this case proves, they are hurting those trying to save them from themselves.
By your logic, we should let people drown too since they always attempt to drown their rescuer as well. Sounds stupid, doesn't it?
Posted on 6/18/19 at 10:29 am to LNCHBOX
quote:It is EXACTLY that easy.
Yep, it's that easy.
Posted on 6/18/19 at 10:29 am to ReauxlTide222
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No, I don’t believe in every goddamn thing that science pumps out or agrees on
Well, we do live in a world based on feelings and not facts from people with authority in their fields of expertise. So, I guess that is to be expected.
Posted on 6/18/19 at 10:29 am to Bedhog
Why did they take so long to notice he grabbed his gun? Obviously I'm armchair QBing right now, but it seems like a delayed reaction.
This post was edited on 6/18/19 at 10:30 am
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