re: Wisconsin police release deadly shooting of police and paramedics trying to help a man

Never mind

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Too many times first responders have to convince people they need assistance due to bullshite liability issues.

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I have mixed feelings about this. Lets say they let him go and your wife comes along and steps on his toe and he whips out a pistol and shoots her dead. How would you feel if you found out that 20 minutes ago he was ODing on a bus and the police just let him walk on down the street?

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Stupid thing to say.

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Looks like to me you are the stupid one considering the upvote/downvote ratio of my post

I like your attitude, Ed.

I too care for the lives of the people with addiction, and there’s no question that narcan saves lives.

But do you worry at all about the incentive it creates in the mind of the addict? There’s no question that the use and availability of narcan has emboldened many addicts to push themselves closer and closer to edge of death (and over it) in pursuit of a better high.

I think there is a correlation between the increased use of fentanyl as an additive to heroin and the wider spread use and availability of narcan.

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and like clockwork, the retards run to downvote me. yeah man, every addict deserves to die. frick saving lives

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This country would be a better place, if we just handed out drugs of choice with enough fentanyl to put the addict down permanently. think of all the homelessness, and crime would be reduced if we just started allowing addicts to OD, and pile them up at burn sites.

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the increased use of fentanyl as an additive to heroin

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That has zero to do with the users. That was a decision made by the cartels because they can buy 55 gallon drums of fentanyl from China for pennies on the dollar compared to refined heroin.

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I like your attitude, Ed.

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But do you worry at all about the incentive it creates in the mind of the addict?

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Of course, one of my good friends who is sober today got arrested for fighting EMS responders because they killed his high. He would also be dead if they didn't. It's crazy but he's a great guy.

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There’s no question that the use and availability of narcan has emboldened many addicts to push themselves closer and closer to edge of death (and over it) in pursuit of a better high.

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The existance of Narcan doesn't do anything to push an addict further. It just saves their lives and gives them second chances. Nobody that's addicted to heroin has done less because they aren't aware of narcan.

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I think there is a correlation between the increased use of fentanyl as an additive to heroin and the wider spread use and availability of narcan.

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Fent and Cart are just cheaper fillers to cut heroin with, Narcan has nothing to do with their introductions to the heroin game.

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The first time a person tries alcohol or another drug, it’s a voluntary choice. But at some point during use, a switch gets flipped within the brain and the decision to use is no longer voluntary. As the Director of the National Institute on Drug Abuse puts it, it's as if an addicted person's brains has been hijacked. Anyone who tries a substance can become addicted, and research shows that the majority of Americans are at risk of developing addiction. Over 40% of 13–14 year olds, and over 75% of 17–18 year olds, report that they’ve tried alcohol. What’s more, 42% of 17–18 year olds report that they’ve tried illicit drugs.10 After initial exposure, no one chooses how their brain will react to drugs or alcohol. So why do some people develop addiction, while others don’t?

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I assume that this is an attempt to try and discredit the medically accepted concept of addiction being a disease.

As to the original point, no one is choosing to OD (aside from planned suicide attempts, which is different.)

Why isn't it policy to quickly check people that OD for weapons prior to administering Narcan?

Disgusting.