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re: Wisconsin police release deadly shooting of police and paramedics trying to help a man

Posted on 6/18/19 at 10:29 am to
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 6/18/19 at 10:29 am to
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It is EXACTLY that easy.



If you have no actual knowledge of addiction and how it works, sure.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83862 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 10:31 am to
Well then how does one go about curing or treating their addiction?
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 6/18/19 at 10:31 am to
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Well then how does one go about curing or treating their addiction?


Clearly you just take away their drugs. If they don't have any, they won't care enough to find more.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 10:34 am to
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Well then how does one go about curing or treating their addiction?


Mayo Clinic
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
22603 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 10:34 am to
Spoken like someone who has no clue about anything
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
57576 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 10:35 am to
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t’s a disease? Fine.

A disease like cancer? Or like bi-polar disorder? Or like obesity? Or like herpes?



I get what you are trying to say but the Center for Disease Control recognizes addiction as a disease, so by the textbook it's a disease.

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Arguing over whether drug addiction is a disease or not is simply pointless.



Fully agree, it is what it is. Semantics don't change it
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
57576 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 10:36 am to
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I’d like to treat it more like an evacuation notice when a hurricane is approaching. In some high risk areas the government lets you know that if you stay, they will not be sending you help. Before you stay, you absolutely know the consequences and can decide to take your life into your own hands or not.

That’s how I feel about drug addicts.


what the frick are you even talking about?
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57532 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 10:36 am to
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got arrested for fighting EMS responders because they killed his high
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he's a great guy.
I'm sorry but it is the truth.
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The existance of Narcan doesn't do anything to push an addict further. It just saves their lives and gives them second chances. Nobody that's addicted to heroin has done less because they aren't aware of narcan. 

are you that jaded? Of course no one has done less because they didn't know about it. But it is a fact they have done more because they did know about it. The way you worded your statement is reminiscent of an addict that knows he is going out to use and tells everyone he is going to church.
This post was edited on 6/18/19 at 10:39 am
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 10:36 am to
You cannot win as a cop in these situations. Shoot him immediately because you KNOW that the bulge COULD be a gun. Play it safe and allow him to fire first. And of course no one expects a man to start shooting at people who just revived him.

This is why someone like Gravy needs a nice 70805 or 70802 ride along with 2 cops. He can see overdosing, violence of all types, and all around do no gooders.

Yeah, there are bad cops. Bad doctors. Bad grocery store owners. But I swear to be a cop in 2019, you need a set of brass ones.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
30571 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 10:37 am to
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Addiction is a disease


No, it isn't.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 10:37 am to
Would you like to be judged by your worst day all the time?
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 10:38 am to
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No, it isn't.


BRB, going to inform the AMA and all those doctors that they're wrong because an idiot on the internet said so.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
22603 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 10:38 am to
You know what the definition of a disease even is or why addiction happens?
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 10:38 am to
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Well then how does one go about curing or treating their addiction?


The thing is, when someone is truly "addicted", you can take away whatever substance and get over the acute withdrawals - but then there is a period, sometimes up to two years, of "post acute withdrawals" - essentially peoples brains trying to get back up to speed. Long term addiction literally re-wires the brain and you aren't getting serotonin, dopamine and other brain chems like a normal, functional human.

So addicts undergo a long, long period of hopelessness, depression, malaise and when the brain is in that kind of depressed mode, not seeing any way out, a lot return to drugs.

This is in addition to the underlying mental disorders seen in many who get started as a way of self-medication and escape.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57532 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 10:39 am to
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medically accepted concept of addiction being a disease.
I mean it actually is highly debated.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83862 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 10:39 am to
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what the frick are you even talking about?
How in the absolute frick could any part of my post been confusing?
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 10:40 am to
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I mean it actually is highly debated.


No it's not. Not in medicine.

The AMA agrees. The APA agrees. NIH agrees. CDC agrees. Only armchair experts with no experience disagree.
This post was edited on 6/18/19 at 10:42 am
Posted by Bedhog
Denham Springs
Member since Apr 2019
3741 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 10:42 am to
WHY are all the posters saying it's a disease Alabama fans?
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 10:42 am to
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quote:medically accepted concept of addiction being a disease. I mean it actually is highly debated.


I think only in threads like these - not by actual doctors / researches / experts.
Posted by DarthTiger
Member since Sep 2005
2758 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 10:42 am to
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