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re: Winn Dixie Tesla charging station line today

Posted on 8/8/23 at 10:23 am to
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 8/8/23 at 10:23 am to
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Saving the planet while forcing children to climb into mines in third world countries.

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Posted by billjamin
Houston
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Posted on 8/8/23 at 10:28 am to
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Saving the planet while forcing children to climb into mines in third world countries.

And amazingly it’s still the most American made vehicle you can buy. Idk why y’all hate America so much.
Posted by jmarto1
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Posted on 8/8/23 at 10:34 am to
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Then uses a cordless drill
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 8/8/23 at 10:37 am to
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But the experts here say most charging is done at night, during off peak hours.
You think a photo of one charge station with some rental cars in line disproves that?
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Chargers are largly unregulated as to their install locations. No pre-planning on electrical demand. I could build one on a corner, and F'k up the supply of the neighborhood also on that chunk of grid.
You think the power company doesn't know what they're doing when they connect your service?
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That would then cause the power company to install extra infrastructure in that area, and the costs would be passed on to ALL electric customers, in increased "line maintaince" fees
You think that's different than when any new structure is built?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 8/8/23 at 10:43 am to
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Idk why y’all hate America so much.


Probably because central planning always fails and makes the quality of life unbearable.


this current trend of forcing electric through renewables will cost the American population a hell of a lot and we will have shortages.

Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29044 posts
Posted on 8/8/23 at 10:53 am to
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Adding EV charging to every other home would require huge localized grid upgrades.
Every home already has EV charging. It requires as much power as an electric clothes dryer or space heater.

If you want level 2 charging at home (240v), that uses about as much power as central AC. If the grid doesn't requires upgrades to run everyone's AC all day, it won't collapse charging EVs all night. And that's looking about 20 years to the future of EV ownership vs. today's grid.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 8/8/23 at 10:56 am to
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This is just a bunch of idiots who bought one without planning and have no where to charge.


This looks more like a car rental company (Hertz/Budget) with a fleet of Tesla's that doesn't have charging stations on site to charge their rental cars.

IF lines stacked up this long regularly at the Winn Dixie store, we'd hear about it non-stop.

I feel for the poor rental car maintenance workers for having to sit through lines like that to charge up the rental cars.
Posted by Saintsisit
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 8/8/23 at 10:57 am to
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Did you just have a stroke mid-TD post? Turn yourself off and back on again





He did the Double Post in a Single Post. Might be a TD first.
Posted by rhar61
Member since Nov 2022
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Posted on 8/8/23 at 11:11 am to
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You think a photo of one charge station with some rental cars in line disproves that?


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You think the power company doesn't know what they're doing when they connect your service?


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You think that's different than when any new structure is built?




from Bing AI

As of February 2022, there were 28 different electric vehicles available in the U.S., from 18 different manufacturers1. According to a recent report, there are currently over 6.8 million plug-in and hybrid electric automobiles on the road in the United States1. Another report estimates that about 3 million of the cars in the U.S. are electric, which is approximately one percent of the total2. Is there anything else you would like to know? ??


You did not ask the question that goes unasked.

The electric vehicles on the road now are 1% of the total.

How's it going to work when the other 99% are electric?

Here's another:

How are all of the millions and millions of apartment dwellers who live FAR AWAY from where their car parks going to "charge overnight in the slow electric hours"?


Another question for those who believe every Science mag article they read:

About 8 years ago it was said here, repeatedly, that all big trucks would be "self-driving in 10 years".

Why are people still hiring truck drivers?
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
35801 posts
Posted on 8/8/23 at 11:16 am to
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Who buys a Tesla and doesn’t have a home charging station????



We have some in the building I live in down here and had some in my condo building in Chicago. No idea how they do it...my range anxiety would be insane. And just the headache of knowing I can't get to (insert location) tomorrow without first sitting at a charging station for half an hour (and that I may have to wait for an hour when I get there).
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Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
76266 posts
Posted on 8/8/23 at 11:34 am to
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And just the headache of knowing I can't get to (insert location) tomorrow without first sitting at a charging station for half an hour (and that I may have to wait for an hour when I get there).


Why wouldn't you alter your plan instead of living with the anxiety?
Posted by evil cockroach
27.98N // 86.92E
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 8/8/23 at 11:40 am to
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Wind Dixie Tesla


Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
35801 posts
Posted on 8/8/23 at 11:45 am to
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Why wouldn't you alter your plan instead of living with the anxiety?


Not sure if this is a serious question, but the answer is because I don't want to constantly be adjusting my life for something I don't want or need to. Pretty simple.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
76266 posts
Posted on 8/8/23 at 11:47 am to
I'm asking why you wouldn't charge up the night before or charge while at work? Instead of feeling the anxiety the night before.


I hate, literally hate, filling up with gas. Such a fricking waste of my life. So I fill up on my lunch break to somewhat compromise by using time with less personal value.
This post was edited on 8/8/23 at 11:48 am
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61276 posts
Posted on 8/8/23 at 11:52 am to
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I hate, literally hate, filling up with gas. Such a fricking waste of my life.


What’s so hard about stopping at a gas station to fill up? I do it once a week and it takes 5-7 minutes?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112624 posts
Posted on 8/8/23 at 11:54 am to
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How's it going to work when the other 99% are electric?

Not saying the question shouldn't be asked, but this is likely 50-100 years away, if not more.
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How are all of the millions and millions of apartment dwellers who live FAR AWAY from where their car parks going to "charge overnight in the slow electric hours"?
Fair question again, but consider you stating that EVs now are 1% of the total. So if we're making the assumption of 100% EVs, then you also have to make the assumption that charging stations will increase 100x or whatever number to the point where they're everywhere to satisfy the demand for charging.

That doesn't even get into considering how many decades away we would be from that and the technology advancements that'll be made from now to then with charge times and standards.
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About 8 years ago it was said here, repeatedly, that all big trucks would be "self-driving in 10 years".

Why are people still hiring truck drivers?
In fairness, what was actually being said here 8 years ago, 5 years ago, even just 1 or 2 years ago..."Once the legacy automakers start producing EVs, the Teslas of the world are fricked."

Point being, let's not put much merit into the collective thoughts of the OT when it comes to EVs
This post was edited on 8/8/23 at 11:56 am
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
76266 posts
Posted on 8/8/23 at 11:54 am to
Not hard, just hate stopping for gas. It is just behind going to work on my list of shite I dislike doing.

I have really eliminated most things I dislike doing.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
76266 posts
Posted on 8/8/23 at 11:56 am to
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Fair question again, but consider you stating that EVs now are 1% of the total. So if we're making the assumption of 100% EVs, then you also have to make the assumption that charging stations will increase 100x or whatever number to the point where they're everywhere to satisfy the demand for charging


If the charging becomes faster then the number wouldn't need to increase.

There are something like 400+ charging locations on the southshore at this point. Not including home chargers.

I have wondered if there is a market for home chargers that street park to lease out their chargers to others in the neighborhood.
This post was edited on 8/8/23 at 11:58 am
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112624 posts
Posted on 8/8/23 at 11:58 am to
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Why wouldn't you alter your plan instead of living with the anxiety?

Answer is probably in the middle.

It would absolutely suck if I couldn't charge at home, I wouldn't have a Tesla if this were the case.

That being said, I don't think it would be the worst thing ever. Where I live, there are multiple super chargers, 1 being right in the middle of a huge shopping center with tons of food options. So if I really need to charge it up once a week or whatever, we could just plan a family trip to a local restaurant for dinner and charge while we eat. Again, not ideal and I already said I would not own the car if I had to do that, but there are ways to navigate around it.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112624 posts
Posted on 8/8/23 at 12:00 pm to
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What’s so hard about stopping at a gas station to fill up? I do it once a week and it takes 5-7 minutes?

I know it's been referenced in this thread a few times, but it is odd.

My whole life growing up with family/friends/whoever, plus this board....basically everyone has always hated getting gas, hated the people you have to deal with at a gas station, etc.

But now all of a sudden is the first time I've ever seen people saying getting gas is no big deal, doesn't bother them at all. It's definitely a 180 in how we view tanking up for some reason
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