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re: Will Smith's BAC 3x the legal limit when he was shot
Posted on 5/31/16 at 1:53 pm to Fun Bunch
Posted on 5/31/16 at 1:53 pm to Fun Bunch
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The burden is on him to prove that his life was in imminent danger.
Guilty until proven innocent.
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Smith being drunk doesn't do that.
It sure as hell doesn't help the state's case. A large athlete being blasted on alcohol sure sounds terrifying to me.
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Posted on 5/31/16 at 1:53 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:This has absolutely nothing to do with the case. I agree.
Telling everyone what? This doesn't change that much.
But.......
Would you agree the OT and Saints talk would normally call people driving with a .24 BAC and hitting cars and fleeing a huge TPOS?
Posted on 5/31/16 at 1:53 pm to N2cars
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I doubt he walks, but I think it will be a lesser charge.
agreed. its going to be messy and i wouldnt be shocked to see it plea out before court. still a few key pieces that are question marks though.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 1:54 pm to Fun Bunch
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He killed Smith. The burden is on him to prove that his life was in imminent danger. Smith being drunk doesn't do that
this. the fact that will smith was drunk doesn't change the fact that Hayes put 8 bullets in his back and 2 bullets in his wife.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 1:55 pm to TigerFred
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Don't forget redsticktigress
Yea thats the other one.
She let us know though that she has 20 years of experience in the field of law. Wouldnt tell us what that meant but it sounded good
Posted on 5/31/16 at 1:55 pm to reddman
Will Smith was huge. 3X the limit for him isn't what it is for most. Not that he should have been driving. And not that he deserved to get shot and killed.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 1:55 pm to reddman
He got murked out by the same #Gcode he played in his rap music.
It's like 10,000 spoons...
It's like 10,000 spoons...
Posted on 5/31/16 at 1:55 pm to Fun Bunch
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Smith being drunk doesn't do that.
well we know it explains his irrational behavior. Which could have carried over once the 2nd crash happened.
We dont know how it affects the case directly, but without knowing all the facts regarding what happened after the 2nd crash, him being intoxicated could prove to be very important.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 1:55 pm to TigerFred
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This entire story is bizarre
It is and, sadly, it takes this level of celebrity/bizarreness for anyone to give a single shite about black on black crime.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 1:56 pm to redneck
some of yall 
don't want to get rid of the 91 jersey. just go buy a drew brees jersey. it will last forever
don't want to get rid of the 91 jersey. just go buy a drew brees jersey. it will last forever
Posted on 5/31/16 at 1:56 pm to lsupride87
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This has absolutely nothing to do with the case. I agree.
But.......
Would you agree the OT and Saints talk would normally call people driving with a .24 BAC and hitting cars and fleeing a huge TPOS?
you put in front of a jury that he was DRUNK and perhaps how much it takes for a guy that large to be that BAC, and then maybe layer in that others in the car were as drunk or more.....
you might start seeing some of them question what other behaviors they were exhibiting in addition to drinking and driving, and the hit and run....
in a vacuum it doesnt change things, but a jury is hard to keep in that space. they often start to let their minds wander.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 1:56 pm to redneck
quote:"Nola Man with .24 BAC drives drunk and is involved in hit and run. Later killed by white concealed carrying hit and run victim named Billy Ray Vaughn after confrontation"
redneck
Your honky arse would be wanting a ticker tape parade for Hayes if this was the case
Dont even try to argue differently This post was edited on 5/31/16 at 1:57 pm
Posted on 5/31/16 at 1:56 pm to Chad504boy
Being 3x the legal limit isn't an excuse to shoot someone.
This doesn't change a thing, everything public up to this point still leads me to believe Hayes is guilty of murder
This doesn't change a thing, everything public up to this point still leads me to believe Hayes is guilty of murder
Posted on 5/31/16 at 1:56 pm to Nado Jenkins83
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I was on yall side too. got destroyed for it but fact is 99% of the public wouldn't have cared if he never signed their jersey
Explain? Was Will not that great of an IRL person?
Posted on 5/31/16 at 1:56 pm to Skillet
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will being triple drunk is probably good news for cardell.
killing drunk people is legal or something?
Posted on 5/31/16 at 1:57 pm to Fun Bunch
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. Smith being drunk doesn't do that.
Could help explain why he isnt alive right now though
Posted on 5/31/16 at 1:58 pm to Skillet
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Was Will not that great of an IRL person?
he beat his wife in public
Posted on 5/31/16 at 1:58 pm to reddman
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Guilty until proven innocent.
He's using self-defense as a defense. He needs to show that he was in imminent danger of losing his life and that the action was necessary to preserve his life (stand your ground doctrine could complicate it a bit). The burden shifts to him.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 2:00 pm to Fun Bunch
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He needs to show that he was in imminent danger of losing his life
And Will Smith having a BAC of .24 could certainly help do that.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 2:00 pm to Lester Earl
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well we know it explains his irrational behavior. Which could have carried over once the 2nd crash happened.
We dont know how it affects the case directly, but without knowing all the facts regarding what happened after the 2nd crash, him being intoxicated could prove to be very important.
I agree to a certain degree, sure.
But of course the idiots are using this as some kind of smoking gun. On its face, its not a big deal. It could be a factor to consider once other more signficant evidence comes out.
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