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Posted on 4/10/16 at 6:06 pm to SEClint
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Then why did one of the bullets fired from his gun to into her body?
Negligence, recklessness, etc
Posted on 4/10/16 at 6:07 pm to CajunsTigersSaints
He was not charged with attempted murder on wife because shooter only intended to kill Smith. Wife was hit by stray. Correct charge would negligent injury.
This post was edited on 4/10/16 at 6:19 pm
Posted on 4/10/16 at 6:08 pm to Shaun176
quote:Quite an assumption
Shooter did not have specific intent to kill or injure Smith's wife. Only had specific intent to kill Smith.
Posted on 4/10/16 at 6:08 pm to SaintsTiger
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So NOLA residents, what are your top 2 or 3 rules of thumb for being street smart and avoiding crimes?
Just don't go. It's a stinky city with shut residents who feed on tourists. The police department is ineffective at patrolling the most visited places.
Yea sure, there is some nice parts and great food and architecture, but other than that, you are better of visiting and vacationing in one of a billion better cities.
Its a dump in a heavy republican state, yet it's filled and run by democrats.
This post was edited on 4/10/16 at 6:11 pm
Posted on 4/10/16 at 6:09 pm to lsu480
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They built a 'ballistic tank' out of 1" thick acrylic and iron
girders. They stuck a block of ballistics gel into the tank that could
be raised up and down to different depths.
9mm @ 6ft: the bullet went straight through the ballistic gel -- fatal
9mm @ 7ft: the bullet went straight through again -- fatal
9mm @ 8ft: the bullet only went 1/2" into the gel -- non-fatal
3" deer slug + Shotgun @ 6ft: As one might have expected, firing a
shotgun into a narrow tank of water shattered the tank and sent everyone
running to turn off all the lights to prevent short circuits. The slug
shot went through the ballistics gel -- fatal
quote:
For the first test they used a replica Civil War black powder rifle shooting Jamie's homemade bullets at 1000 ft/s.
Replica Civil War rifle @ 15 ft: The bullet veered way off target.
Replica Civil War rifle@ 5 ft: they couldn't find the bullet and the ballistics gel was still intact -- nonfatal
Replica Civil War rifle @ 3 ft: The bullet went through the gel --
fatal. At this distance, though, the gel was only 2 ft underwater
because of the angle.
They switched to a .223 rifle, which shoots at 2500 ft/s
.223 rifle @ 10 ft: the full metal jacket bullet shattered into tiny bits upon hitting the water -- nonfatal
223 rifle@ 3 ft: once again the bullet broke up. The tip of the bullet was resting on the ballistics gel -- nonfatal (myth confirmed)
The next gun up was the M1, which shoots at 2800 ft/s. In their
Bulletproof Glass mythbusting, the M1 was capable of penetrating 2.5" of
bulletproof glass.
M1@ 10 ft: tiny bullet fragments once again
M1@ 2 ft: the bullet only pierced the gel 4", which would be enough to just pierce the skin.
They finally broke out the big gun, the .50 cal with armor-piercing rounds, which are shot at 3000 ft/s.
Adam: "Hopefully we'll be gone before the pool fully drains"
.50 cal @ 10 ft: even though the water exploded, the ballistics gel
was intact. Water made it all the way up to the ceiling. As it was with
the previous guns, the bullet round came apart on impact. It lost all of
it's energy within the first 3 ft. You would be safe 14" underwater at a
23 angle from a .50 cal.
confirmed: you can protect yourself from a bullet by
diving underwater. If the shooter were directly overhead, you would
probably be safe from most guns at 8 ft. At a 30 degree angle, you would
only have to be 3 ft underwater to be safe.
Posted on 4/10/16 at 6:13 pm to SEClint
quote:
Then why did one of the bullets fired from his gun to into her body?

Posted on 4/10/16 at 6:16 pm to LSUtiger17
quote:
Negligence, recklessness, etc
So..as he was murdering her husband right beside her, he accidently shoots her and, according to law, he isn't charged with 1st when the law clearly stated what 1st is, and it is exactly what happened..
More than 1 person was harmed, one was killed and since she was hit while the a-hole unloaded his weapon..she easily could have been killed too. She was injured because of his actions..I mean, 1st makes sense.
Posted on 4/10/16 at 6:23 pm to GeeOH
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Its a dump in a heavy republican state, yet it's filled and run by democrats.
Which major cities are ran by republicans ?
Posted on 4/10/16 at 6:28 pm to SEClint
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SEClint
If the prosecution were to fail to prove intent to murder her as well while charging first degree, then the prosecution could lose the case. 2nd degree is probably the safe call. Obviously more facts are needed.
Posted on 4/10/16 at 6:32 pm to TigerWise
quote:
Which major cities are ran by republicans ?
Jacksonville
Miami
Oklahoma City
San Diego
Posted on 4/10/16 at 6:37 pm to LSUtiger17
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If the prosecution were to fail to prove intent to murder her as well while charging first degree, then the prosecution could lose the case. 2nd degree is probably the safe call. Obviously more facts are needed.
Probably a safe bet his fingerprints are on the weapon. (no telling if the gun it's self has other bodies connected to it) you have multiple witnesses, powder residue on his hand, possible surveillance video, etc.
Dude is literally red handed. If he shot at this couple, and a bullet hit her (which it did), it doesn't make sense to say he didn't have an intent in harming.
He had no business firing a weapon into someone's vehicle, taking life, in the first place. Feels like the prosecution has a strong case no matter how it's looked at.
This post was edited on 4/10/16 at 6:39 pm
Posted on 4/10/16 at 6:43 pm to Ingeniero
Hope the POS that did the shooting is permanently off the streets. When he gets to the big house, he might get tore up!
Posted on 4/10/16 at 6:45 pm to Rebel
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Using FBI data base says different.
Do you have a link to the database?
Posted on 4/10/16 at 7:01 pm to Rebel
Interesting. I may have overlooked the rankings but did find this disclaimer:
quote:
UCR data are sometimes used to compile rankings of individual jurisdictions and institutions of higher learning. These incomplete analyses have often created misleading perceptions which adversely affect geographic entities and their residents. For this reason, the FBI has a long-standing policy against ranking participating law enforcement agencies on the basis of crime data alone. Despite repeated warnings against these practices, some data users continue to challenge and misunderstand this position.
Data users should not rank locales because there are many factors that cause the nature and type of crime to vary from place to place. UCR statistics include only jurisdictional population figures along with reported crime, clearance, or arrest data. Rankings ignore the uniqueness of each locale. Some factors that are known to affect the volume and type of crime occurring from place to place are:
• Population density and degree of urbanization.
• Variations in composition of the population, particularly youth concentration.
• Stability of the population with respect to residents’ mobility, commuting patterns, and
transient factors.
• Economic conditions, including median income, poverty level, and job availability.
Modes of transportation and highway systems.
• Cultural factors and educational, recreational, and religious characteristics.
• Family conditions with respect to divorce and family cohesiveness.
• Climate.
• Effective strength of law enforcement agencies.
• Administrative and investigative emphases on law enforcement.
• Policies of other components of the criminal justice system (i.e., prosecutorial, judicial,
correctional, and probational).
• Citizens’ attitudes toward crime.
• Crime reporting practices of the citizenry.
Ranking agencies based solely on UCR data has serious implications. For example, if a user wants to measure the effectiveness of a law enforcement agency, these measurements are not available. As a substitute, a user might list UCR clearance rates, rank them by agency, and attempt to infer the effectiveness of individual law enforcement agencies. This inference is flawed because all the other measures of police effectiveness were ignored. The nature of the offenses that were cleared must be considered as those cleared may not have been the most serious, like murder or rape. The agency’s clearances may or may not result in conviction, the ultimate goal. The agency may make many arrests for Part II offenses, like drug abuse violations, which demonstrate police activity but are not considered in the clearance rate. The agency’s available resources are also critical to successful operation, so its rate of officers to population and budget should be considered. The UCR clearance rate was simply not designed to provide a complete assessment of law enforcement effectiveness. In order to obtain a valid picture of an agency’s effectiveness, data users must consider an agency’s emphases and resources; and its crime, clearance, and arrest rates; along with other appropriate factors.
Because of concern regarding the proper use of UCR data, the FBI has the following policies:
• The FBI does not analyze, interpret, or publish crime statistics based solely on a single- dimension interagency ranking.
• The FBI does not provide agency-based crime statistics to data users in a ranked format.
• When providing/using agency-oriented statistics, the FBI cautions and, in fact, strongly discourages, data users against using rankings to evaluate locales or the effectiveness of their law enforcement agencies.
Posted on 4/10/16 at 7:09 pm to Isabelle81
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When he gets to the big house, he might get tore up!
The dudes about 6'6 three hundo, it's possible but not likely. Gotta sneak him with a shank to the jugular on the yard
Posted on 4/10/16 at 7:15 pm to Howyouluhdat
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This post was edited on 4/10/16 at 7:17 pm
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