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re: Will Smith Murder Trial-Guilty of manslaughter and attempted manslaughter
Posted on 12/7/16 at 5:46 pm to GRIZZ
Posted on 12/7/16 at 5:46 pm to GRIZZ
quote:
Not if McGaw was accurate in saying "Cardell says I got out the car with the gun in my hand".
You cant put a gun in your waistband without exiting the truck, gun in hand, then you tuck it. Especially for a big baw. Not sure "Gun in my hand" in intended to mean he had the gun in hand throughout
Oneal had his revolver in the waistband, apparently. They both may have tucked it upon exiting the vehicle
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 5:46 pm to Rocky4LSU
Dreiling: "I pulled up to the Half Moon bar and stayed in the car." "Once I heard nothing I ran up to see what I could do." #WillSmith
Dreiling was a block away when he heard the gunshots ring out.
Rob Krieger ?@Rob_Krieger 9m9 minutes ago
Dreiling says he started recording video as he walked up Smith's SUV about two minutes after he heard the shots fired. #WillSmith
Rob Krieger ?@Rob_Krieger 9m9 minutes ago
Napoli: Did you see a firearm in the mercedes? Dreiling: No
Napoli: Could you see into the glove box? Dreiling: I could. Napoli: Did you see a gun in there? Dreiling: No I did not. #WillSmith
Rob Krieger ?@Rob_Krieger 6m6 minutes ago
You can hear man angrily say: "Two white dudes with him, they ran off" Napoli says: "O'Neal said them two were about to get into a skirmish"
Rob Krieger ?@Rob_Krieger 6m6 minutes ago
Audio: "A dude took his shirt off and all that. He went to the truck to get his gun. I walked off."
Dreiling was a block away when he heard the gunshots ring out.
Rob Krieger ?@Rob_Krieger 9m9 minutes ago
Dreiling says he started recording video as he walked up Smith's SUV about two minutes after he heard the shots fired. #WillSmith
Rob Krieger ?@Rob_Krieger 9m9 minutes ago
Napoli: Did you see a firearm in the mercedes? Dreiling: No
Napoli: Could you see into the glove box? Dreiling: I could. Napoli: Did you see a gun in there? Dreiling: No I did not. #WillSmith
Rob Krieger ?@Rob_Krieger 6m6 minutes ago
You can hear man angrily say: "Two white dudes with him, they ran off" Napoli says: "O'Neal said them two were about to get into a skirmish"
Rob Krieger ?@Rob_Krieger 6m6 minutes ago
Audio: "A dude took his shirt off and all that. He went to the truck to get his gun. I walked off."
Posted on 12/7/16 at 5:50 pm to ihometiger
Rob Krieger ?@Rob_Krieger 3m3 minutes ago
Dreiling: I had been [drinking] earlier in the day. Fuller: You can hear it in your voice. Dreiling: Probably, I had been at FQF. #WillSmith
Rob Krieger ?@Rob_Krieger 3m3 minutes ago
Dreiling: "It did not appear that they were fleeing." Talking about Cardell Hayes or Kevin O'Neal.
Rob Krieger ?@Rob_Krieger 2m2 minutes ago
Dreiling: I did not know Hayes spoke to the off-duty officer before he talked to me.
Dreiling: I had been [drinking] earlier in the day. Fuller: You can hear it in your voice. Dreiling: Probably, I had been at FQF. #WillSmith
Rob Krieger ?@Rob_Krieger 3m3 minutes ago
Dreiling: "It did not appear that they were fleeing." Talking about Cardell Hayes or Kevin O'Neal.
Rob Krieger ?@Rob_Krieger 2m2 minutes ago
Dreiling: I did not know Hayes spoke to the off-duty officer before he talked to me.
This post was edited on 12/7/16 at 5:51 pm
Posted on 12/7/16 at 5:50 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:
Why are you so mad that Fun Bunch knows more about this stuff than most here. You've been pretty hell bent on discrediting him for much of the day.
He's never once said evidence doesn't matter.
Fun Bunch has 50k posts on tiger droppings. While i dont doubt he's a lawyer, let's not act like he's johnny cochran
im pretty sure fred is a lawyer himself
Posted on 12/7/16 at 5:51 pm to TigerFred
quote:
lnchbox will argue about everything
Dude thinks he knows everything about anything.. but is just a clown show.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 5:51 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:
He's never once said evidence doesn't matter.
He has said numerous times that the evidence is irrelevant. case law blah blah. Jury will be instructed.
If he wants to keep posting with his pretentious bullshite I will call him out on it.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 5:52 pm to TigerFred
Rob Krieger ?@Rob_Krieger 1m1 minute ago
Fuller: The first thing Kevin says is there was an accident on Mag & Mercedes hit them & they pursued the car Dreiling: That's what he said
Fuller: The first thing Kevin says is there was an accident on Mag & Mercedes hit them & they pursued the car Dreiling: That's what he said
Posted on 12/7/16 at 5:52 pm to GRIZZ
I don't understand the hand checking.
Are they describing pushing and shoving?
Or punches?
Are they describing pushing and shoving?
Or punches?
Posted on 12/7/16 at 5:52 pm to TigerFred
Posted on 12/7/16 at 5:53 pm to ihometiger
Rob Krieger ?@Rob_Krieger 2m2 minutes ago
Dreiling: I did not hear any sounds of an accident on Mercedes.
Rob Krieger ?@Rob_Krieger 26s27 seconds ago
Fuller: If you bump someone does it make a loud noise. Dreiling: I've done a few of those. No. #WillSmith
Dreiling: I did not hear any sounds of an accident on Mercedes.
Rob Krieger ?@Rob_Krieger 26s27 seconds ago
Fuller: If you bump someone does it make a loud noise. Dreiling: I've done a few of those. No. #WillSmith
Posted on 12/7/16 at 5:53 pm to Nado Jenkins83
quote:
I don't understand the hand checking.
Are they describing pushing and shoving?
Or punches?
the witness described it like what happens before a fight would start at school. kind of two people in each others face kind of shoving hands or whatnot.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 5:54 pm to diat150
Rob Krieger ?@Rob_Krieger 1m1 minute ago
Fuller: Did he say anything about somebody taking their shirt off? Dreiling: He did. #WillSmith
Rob Krieger ?@Rob_Krieger 41s42 seconds ago
Dreiling: "It sounded like he was telling him to back off. I'd back off, he is a big man." #WillSmith
Fuller: Did he say anything about somebody taking their shirt off? Dreiling: He did. #WillSmith
Rob Krieger ?@Rob_Krieger 41s42 seconds ago
Dreiling: "It sounded like he was telling him to back off. I'd back off, he is a big man." #WillSmith
Posted on 12/7/16 at 5:55 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:has there ever been a thread you've entered where you didn't try to argue over the stupidest shite?
LNCHBOX
Posted on 12/7/16 at 5:56 pm to Nado Jenkins83
quote:
I don't understand the hand checking.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 5:56 pm to ihometiger
Rob Krieger ?@Rob_Krieger 24s24 seconds ago
Dreiling: [Hayes] looked emotional yes. Fuller: Some people would say upset. Dreiling: I'd say emotional.
Rob Krieger ?@Rob_Krieger 28s28 seconds ago
Dreiling: "He tried to explain what happened and that was immediately cut off by his friend, his partner, his passenger." #WillSmith
Rob Krieger ?@Rob_Krieger 29s30 seconds ago
Dreiling: "He showed emotion, I would not say he was emotionless." #WillSmith
Rob Krieger ?@Rob_Krieger 14s14 seconds ago
Fuller: They did not look like they were stalking anyone? Dreiling: "They didn't move really." #WillSmith
Dreiling: [Hayes] looked emotional yes. Fuller: Some people would say upset. Dreiling: I'd say emotional.
Rob Krieger ?@Rob_Krieger 28s28 seconds ago
Dreiling: "He tried to explain what happened and that was immediately cut off by his friend, his partner, his passenger." #WillSmith
Rob Krieger ?@Rob_Krieger 29s30 seconds ago
Dreiling: "He showed emotion, I would not say he was emotionless." #WillSmith
Rob Krieger ?@Rob_Krieger 14s14 seconds ago
Fuller: They did not look like they were stalking anyone? Dreiling: "They didn't move really." #WillSmith
Posted on 12/7/16 at 6:00 pm to SuperSaint
quote:
has there ever been a thread you've entered where you didn't try to argue over the stupidest shite?
Plenty. But no one seems to remember those.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 6:00 pm to diat150
Okay so sort of when one will use hand gestures a little close to someone's face and they other slaps them away?
Another thing is Raquel stated yesterday that she heard the argument getting loud and that's when she got out the truck.
A witness said she was between will ando Hayes the whole time. She lied under oath
Another thing is Raquel stated yesterday that she heard the argument getting loud and that's when she got out the truck.
A witness said she was between will ando Hayes the whole time. She lied under oath
Posted on 12/7/16 at 6:00 pm to GRIZZ
Danny Monteverde ?@DCMonteverde 2h2 hours ago
Cacioppo says that when Smith and Hayes were "hand checking" each other, Hayes was trying to defend himself. Says that Smith was aggressive.
Cacioppo says that when Smith and Hayes were "hand checking" each other, Hayes was trying to defend himself. Says that Smith was aggressive.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 6:01 pm to Nado Jenkins83
quote:
Another thing is Raquel stated yesterday that she heard the argument getting loud and that's when she got out the truck.
A witness said she was between will ando Hayes the whole time. She lied under oath
Why do you assume she's the liar and not the witness?
Posted on 12/7/16 at 6:01 pm to GRIZZ
I don't see hand checking lasting more than a few seconds
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