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Posted on 12/7/16 at 6:02 pm to Nado Jenkins83
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The witness isn't biased.
You positive?
Posted on 12/7/16 at 6:03 pm to ihometiger
Donald Chick Foret ?@chickforet 2m2 minutes ago
Tape being replayed. "I didn't even know nobody was even going for a gun." That was said by Kevin.
Tape being replayed. "I didn't even know nobody was even going for a gun." That was said by Kevin.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 6:04 pm to Nado Jenkins83
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Another thing is Raquel stated yesterday that she heard the argument getting loud and that's when she got out the truck.
A witness said she was between will ando Hayes the whole time. She lied under oath
So they were hand checking each other though her?
Posted on 12/7/16 at 6:04 pm to ihometiger
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Tape being replayed. "I didn't even know nobody was even going for a gun." That was said by Kevin.
That will likely be big
Kevin and Hernendez are both liars
This post was edited on 12/7/16 at 6:05 pm
Posted on 12/7/16 at 6:06 pm to TigerBait1127
Rob Krieger ?@Rob_Krieger 2m2 minutes ago
Fuller: How long did you talk to him. Dreiling: About two minutes. Fuller: Do police interrogations last longer than that? Dreiling: Yes
Rob Krieger ?@Rob_Krieger 2m2 minutes ago
Dreiling: My father was FBI "He interrogated me longer than that." Court slight laugh. Fuller finishes. Napoli redirecting again.
Rob Krieger ?@Rob_Krieger 2m2 minutes ago
Dreiling: "My sunroof was open and I could hear an argument, it was very loud, it all happened quickly." #WillSmith
Rob Krieger ?@Rob_Krieger 31s31 seconds ago
Napoli: Did Kevin O'Neal tell you that night that he had no idea that anyone was going for a gun? Dreiling: Yes he did.#WillSmith
Fuller: How long did you talk to him. Dreiling: About two minutes. Fuller: Do police interrogations last longer than that? Dreiling: Yes
Rob Krieger ?@Rob_Krieger 2m2 minutes ago
Dreiling: My father was FBI "He interrogated me longer than that." Court slight laugh. Fuller finishes. Napoli redirecting again.
Rob Krieger ?@Rob_Krieger 2m2 minutes ago
Dreiling: "My sunroof was open and I could hear an argument, it was very loud, it all happened quickly." #WillSmith
Rob Krieger ?@Rob_Krieger 31s31 seconds ago
Napoli: Did Kevin O'Neal tell you that night that he had no idea that anyone was going for a gun? Dreiling: Yes he did.#WillSmith
Posted on 12/7/16 at 6:07 pm to TigerBait1127
Was a UDS ever done on Raquel?
Posted on 12/7/16 at 6:07 pm to TigerBait1127
quote:
That will likely be big
Kevin and Hernendez are both liars
what was this about?
Rob Krieger ?@Rob_Krieger 26m26 minutes ago
Audio: "A dude took his shirt off and all that. He went to the truck to get his gun. I walked off."
Posted on 12/7/16 at 6:10 pm to TigerBait1127
When has Kevin lied in court?
Link
Link
Posted on 12/7/16 at 6:11 pm to diat150
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Audio: "A dude took his shirt off and all that. He went to the truck to get his gun. I walked off."
This was supposedly said by Hayes?
Posted on 12/7/16 at 6:12 pm to lsupride87
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When has Kevin lied in court?
Where did I say Kevin lied in court?
Kevin has given a media tour that has already been brought up during this trial and will come up during his testimony.
quote:
Link
I've quoted and linked him throughout this thing. He's quoted, via tape I believe, in this trial saying he didn't know anyone was going for a gun, which directly contradicts him quoting Will Smith to the media.
This post was edited on 12/7/16 at 6:13 pm
Posted on 12/7/16 at 6:14 pm to diat150
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Rob Krieger ?@Rob_Krieger 26m26 minutes ago
Hayes Audio: "A dude took his shirt off and all that. He (O'Neal) went to the truck to get his gun. I (Hayes) walked off."
This is Hayes telling Dreiling what happened on audio.
Rob Krieger ?@Rob_Krieger 30m30 minutes ago
Napoli: In that video do you hear O'Neal say I didn't even know no one went for a gun. Dreiling: Yes.
Rob Krieger ?@Rob_Krieger 29m29 minutes ago
Napoli asks if Dreiling could see O'Neal remove something from his waistband and put it into the Hummer. Dreiling: Yes
This post was edited on 12/7/16 at 6:15 pm
Posted on 12/7/16 at 6:14 pm to TigerBait1127
quote:
quote:
Audio: "A dude took his shirt off and all that. He went to the truck to get his gun. I walked off."
This was supposedly said by Hayes?
I have no clue. Supposedly it was audio on the video they played. They just said that oneal said that he didnt know nobody was going for a gun. I wonder if that was a response to hayes saying smith was going for a gun.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 6:16 pm to LNCHBOX
Look I don't blame her if she is. She lost her companion for life. I have no idea what that feels like. It's certainly plausible that she was drunk as well and doesnot recall it as it really happened
What does the witness gain by lying
What does the witness gain by lying
Posted on 12/7/16 at 6:17 pm to diat150
Hayes Audio: "A dude took his shirt off and all that. He (O'Neal) went to the truck to get his gun. I (Hayes) walked off."
This is Hayes telling Dreiling what happened on audio.
Rob Krieger ?@Rob_Krieger 30m30 minutes ago
Napoli: In that video do you hear O'Neal say I didn't even know no one went for a gun. Dreiling: Yes.
O'Neal on Video
Napoli asks if Dreiling could see O'Neal remove something from his waistband and put it into the Hummer. Dreiling: Yes
Ramon Antonio Vargas
@RVargasAdvocate
Dreiling says he heard the argument from hundreds yards away. But O'Neal, 10 ft. away, didn't describe hearing Smith going for a gun, on vid.
On the flip side O'Neal was busy on the other side of the car tangling with Hernandez.
This is Hayes telling Dreiling what happened on audio.
Rob Krieger ?@Rob_Krieger 30m30 minutes ago
Napoli: In that video do you hear O'Neal say I didn't even know no one went for a gun. Dreiling: Yes.
O'Neal on Video
Napoli asks if Dreiling could see O'Neal remove something from his waistband and put it into the Hummer. Dreiling: Yes
Ramon Antonio Vargas
@RVargasAdvocate
Dreiling says he heard the argument from hundreds yards away. But O'Neal, 10 ft. away, didn't describe hearing Smith going for a gun, on vid.
On the flip side O'Neal was busy on the other side of the car tangling with Hernandez.
This post was edited on 12/7/16 at 6:21 pm
Posted on 12/7/16 at 6:19 pm to ihometiger
quote:Big Cat Drill
Smith and Hayes were "hand checking" each other
Posted on 12/7/16 at 6:21 pm to Nado Jenkins83
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What does the witness gain by lying
They don't necessarily have to be lying. They may just not have seen what they thought they did. You calling one of them a liar implies that you know who is telling the truth.
But I'm sure this is me just arguing a another petty point.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 6:24 pm to LNCHBOX
I worded it that way just for you.
We know multiple people are lying. Just a shitty situation for all involved. Could have been easily avoided
Posted on 12/7/16 at 6:26 pm to Nado Jenkins83
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I worded it that way just for you.
We know multiple people are lying.
You also worded it in a way that implies you know which ones are the liars. Whatever, everyone can just gang up on me regardless
Posted on 12/7/16 at 6:27 pm to Nado Jenkins83
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We know multiple people are lying. Just a shitty situation for all involved. Could have been easily avoided
when they were hand checking someone should have just shoved one of them into the other so they could fight... thats how we did it back in grade school.
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