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re: Will Smith Murder Trial-Guilty of manslaughter and attempted manslaughter

Posted on 12/7/16 at 6:01 pm to
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 6:01 pm to
The witness isn't biased.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 6:02 pm to
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The witness isn't biased.


You positive?
Posted by ihometiger
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 6:03 pm to
Donald Chick Foret ?@chickforet 2m2 minutes ago
Tape being replayed. "I didn't even know nobody was even going for a gun." That was said by Kevin.
Posted by TigerBait1127
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 6:04 pm to
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Another thing is Raquel stated yesterday that she heard the argument getting loud and that's when she got out the truck.
A witness said she was between will ando Hayes the whole time. She lied under oath




So they were hand checking each other though her?
Posted by TigerBait1127
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 6:04 pm to
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Tape being replayed. "I didn't even know nobody was even going for a gun." That was said by Kevin.



That will likely be big

Kevin and Hernendez are both liars
This post was edited on 12/7/16 at 6:05 pm
Posted by ihometiger
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 6:06 pm to
Rob Krieger ?@Rob_Krieger 2m2 minutes ago
Fuller: How long did you talk to him. Dreiling: About two minutes. Fuller: Do police interrogations last longer than that? Dreiling: Yes

Rob Krieger ?@Rob_Krieger 2m2 minutes ago
Dreiling: My father was FBI "He interrogated me longer than that." Court slight laugh. Fuller finishes. Napoli redirecting again.

Rob Krieger ?@Rob_Krieger 2m2 minutes ago
Dreiling: "My sunroof was open and I could hear an argument, it was very loud, it all happened quickly." #WillSmith

Rob Krieger ?@Rob_Krieger 31s31 seconds ago
Napoli: Did Kevin O'Neal tell you that night that he had no idea that anyone was going for a gun? Dreiling: Yes he did.#WillSmith
Posted by GRIZZ
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 6:07 pm to
Was a UDS ever done on Raquel?
Posted by diat150
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 6:07 pm to
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That will likely be big

Kevin and Hernendez are both liars


what was this about?

Rob Krieger ?@Rob_Krieger 26m26 minutes ago

Audio: "A dude took his shirt off and all that. He went to the truck to get his gun. I walked off."
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 6:10 pm to
When has Kevin lied in court?

Link
Posted by TigerBait1127
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 6:11 pm to
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Audio: "A dude took his shirt off and all that. He went to the truck to get his gun. I walked off."



This was supposedly said by Hayes?
Posted by TigerBait1127
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 6:12 pm to
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When has Kevin lied in court?



Where did I say Kevin lied in court?

Kevin has given a media tour that has already been brought up during this trial and will come up during his testimony.

quote:

Link


I've quoted and linked him throughout this thing. He's quoted, via tape I believe, in this trial saying he didn't know anyone was going for a gun, which directly contradicts him quoting Will Smith to the media.
This post was edited on 12/7/16 at 6:13 pm
Posted by ihometiger
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 6:14 pm to
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Rob Krieger ?@Rob_Krieger 26m26 minutes ago

Hayes Audio: "A dude took his shirt off and all that. He (O'Neal) went to the truck to get his gun. I (Hayes) walked off."


This is Hayes telling Dreiling what happened on audio.

Rob Krieger ?@Rob_Krieger 30m30 minutes ago
Napoli: In that video do you hear O'Neal say I didn't even know no one went for a gun. Dreiling: Yes.

Rob Krieger ?@Rob_Krieger 29m29 minutes ago
Napoli asks if Dreiling could see O'Neal remove something from his waistband and put it into the Hummer. Dreiling: Yes
This post was edited on 12/7/16 at 6:15 pm
Posted by diat150
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 6:14 pm to
quote:

quote:
Audio: "A dude took his shirt off and all that. He went to the truck to get his gun. I walked off."



This was supposedly said by Hayes?


I have no clue. Supposedly it was audio on the video they played. They just said that oneal said that he didnt know nobody was going for a gun. I wonder if that was a response to hayes saying smith was going for a gun.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 6:16 pm to
Look I don't blame her if she is. She lost her companion for life. I have no idea what that feels like. It's certainly plausible that she was drunk as well and doesnot recall it as it really happened

What does the witness gain by lying
Posted by ihometiger
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 6:17 pm to
Hayes Audio: "A dude took his shirt off and all that. He (O'Neal) went to the truck to get his gun. I (Hayes) walked off."


This is Hayes telling Dreiling what happened on audio.

Rob Krieger ?@Rob_Krieger 30m30 minutes ago
Napoli: In that video do you hear O'Neal say I didn't even know no one went for a gun. Dreiling: Yes.

O'Neal on Video

Napoli asks if Dreiling could see O'Neal remove something from his waistband and put it into the Hummer. Dreiling: Yes

Ramon Antonio Vargas
@RVargasAdvocate
Dreiling says he heard the argument from hundreds yards away. But O'Neal, 10 ft. away, didn't describe hearing Smith going for a gun, on vid.

On the flip side O'Neal was busy on the other side of the car tangling with Hernandez.
This post was edited on 12/7/16 at 6:21 pm
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 6:19 pm to
quote:

Smith and Hayes were "hand checking" each other
Big Cat Drill
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 6:21 pm to
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What does the witness gain by lying


They don't necessarily have to be lying. They may just not have seen what they thought they did. You calling one of them a liar implies that you know who is telling the truth.

But I'm sure this is me just arguing a another petty point.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 6:24 pm to


I worded it that way just for you.

We know multiple people are lying. Just a shitty situation for all involved. Could have been easily avoided
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 6:26 pm to
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I worded it that way just for you.

We know multiple people are lying.


You also worded it in a way that implies you know which ones are the liars. Whatever, everyone can just gang up on me regardless
Posted by diat150
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 6:27 pm to
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We know multiple people are lying. Just a shitty situation for all involved. Could have been easily avoided


when they were hand checking someone should have just shoved one of them into the other so they could fight... thats how we did it back in grade school.
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