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re: Will Smith Murder Trial-Guilty of manslaughter and attempted manslaughter
Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:03 am to lsupride87
Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:03 am to lsupride87
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We disagree. Period.
Legally, you would almost certainly be wrong. I'm making it seem black and white, but the law is always grey and a good defense can always make the waters muddy.
But case law on point would suggest that you are very, very very very wrong. There's case law going back almost 200 years on this.
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:04 am to Fun Bunch
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So what if they did?
You can't respond with a goddamn gun.
What don't you people understand about this? Hayes getting out with a gun makes him the aggressor. Period.
well then I will go to jail if that happens to me. because I will pump them full of lead. and a revolver doesn't throw casings everywhere
Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:05 am to Napoleon
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or he could have done the thing normal people do. Call the police and report a hit and run and give the other car's plate.
same goes for will and his crew. they had a gun in the vehicle and think someone rammed them on purpose, but instead they get out and confront hayes and oneal angrily.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:06 am to Nado Jenkins83
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well then I will go to jail if that happens to me. because I will pump them full of lead.
You will take someone's life because they are arguing with you after a car accident and take a couple of swings at you that don't connect?
Ok man. Sure.
Its times like this when maybe we need Pre-Crime.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:07 am to Fun Bunch
quote:So, from a legal sense, Hayes should have simply taken his arse whooping, and then got his gun if he was capable? He is not allowed to have his gun ready in case he needs to use it? He needs to be quick draw McGraw and jump in the car at just the right moment to retrieve the gun?
Legally, you would almost certainly be wrong. I'm making it seem black and white, but the law is always grey and a good defense can always make the waters muddy.
But case law on point would suggest that you are very, very very very wrong. There's case law going back almost 200 years on this
My father is an attorney, and I will ask him how he interprets the law here.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:07 am to lsupride87
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And then shouldnt have hit and ran
Is the alleged hit and run the GIF in front of Juans that people keep posting?
Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:08 am to lsupride87
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Hayes should have simply taken his arse whooping
Racquel was walking Will away.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:08 am to lsuhunt555
quote:Yes
Is the alleged hit and run the GIF in front of Juans that people keep posting?
Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:08 am to lsuhunt555
Rodrigue asks if it would be smart to walk up to Hayes & try to reason with him. Dooley: "No. ... That could've made things worse."
what?
what?
Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:08 am to Fun Bunch
quote:If two guys were to aggressively approach my vehicle I'd be a little apprehensive but not yet to the point where I feared for my life. I'd certainly be terrified for my life if someone approached me aggressively with a gun, regardless of whether it's in his hand or waistband.
What don't you people understand about this? Hayes getting out with a gun makes him the aggressor.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:08 am to lsupride87
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So, from a legal sense, Hayes should have simply taken his arse whooping, and then got his gun if he was capable? He is not allowed to have his gun ready in case he needs to use it? He needs to be quick draw McGraw and jump in the car at just the right moment to retrieve the gun?
OR he could not get out his car. Or call the police. Or drive off. Any number of things other than what he chose to do.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:09 am to lsupride87
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Yes
That wasn't a hit and run. Its pretty clear in that GIF there was no contact.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:09 am to Chad504boy
quote:When will was approaching, with his deckhand dumbass friend(I really dont like this guy) Hayes has no idea at that moment Will is going to eventually walk away with his wife. That is my point
Racquel was walking Will away.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:09 am to lsupride87
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Hayes should have simply taken his arse whooping, and then got his gun if he was capable?
Him and his boy O'Neal have no chance against a shirtless idiot and a guy whose BAC was so high he should've had a hard time walking straight?
This post was edited on 12/7/16 at 10:10 am
Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:09 am to Fun Bunch
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You will take someone's life because they are arguing with you after a car accident and take a couple of swings at you that don't connect?
Ok man. Sure.
Its times like this when maybe we need Pre-Crime.
yep. If it played out like I described. that is not my fault they are fricking crazy.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:10 am to lsupride87
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Hayes has no idea at that moment Will is going to eventually walk away with his wife. That is my point
there was no physical contact made.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:10 am to Lazy But Talented
quote:So now the law says you must first fight to assess your chances of winning?
Him and his boy O'Neal have no chance against a shirtless idiot and a guy whose BAC was so high he should've had a hard time walking straight?
Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:10 am to Nado Jenkins83
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yep. If it played out like I described. that is not my fault they are fricking crazy.
Enjoy jail.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:10 am to lsupride87
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So, from a legal sense, Hayes should have simply taken his arse whooping, and then got his gun if he was capable? He is not allowed to have his gun ready in case he needs to use it? He needs to be quick draw McGraw and jump in the car at just the right moment to retrieve the gun?
He wasnt forced to partake in the confrontation.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:10 am to lsuhunt555
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That wasn't a hit and run. Its pretty clear in that GIF there was no contact.
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