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re: Will Smith Murder Trial-Guilty of manslaughter and attempted manslaughter
Posted on 12/8/16 at 7:43 pm to Nado Jenkins83
Posted on 12/8/16 at 7:43 pm to Nado Jenkins83
Per closest bi partisan witness will did nothing to deserve to be shot
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Posted on 12/8/16 at 7:43 pm to Nado Jenkins83
I'm just saying the question isn't whether or not Hayes held a gun or shot a gun, we already know he did.
This post was edited on 12/8/16 at 7:44 pm
Posted on 12/8/16 at 7:45 pm to tgrbaitn08
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I'm just saying the question isn't whether or not Hayes held a gun or shot a gun, we already know he did.
It is still important whether Hayes was waving his gun around as soon as he got out of the car. So far no witness has reported seeing the gun before he shot.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 7:47 pm to TigahJay
Is there a live feed to this thing??
Posted on 12/8/16 at 7:48 pm to GRIZZ
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I'm not sure he walks, but Fuller is making this very interesting. It's not a slam dunk like it seemed earlier.
at what point was this ever a slam dunk?
only irrational Saints fans thought that.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 7:48 pm to TigahJay
That's not what you asked.
So what you want to know is if Hayes was waving his gun around as soon as he got out of the car, not that he just had it in his hand.
You may want to go back and edit your previous post.
So what you want to know is if Hayes was waving his gun around as soon as he got out of the car, not that he just had it in his hand.
You may want to go back and edit your previous post.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 7:48 pm to tiger91
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Is there a live feed to this thing??
This is about as good as it gets. Or you can go to Twitter
Posted on 12/8/16 at 7:50 pm to Lester Earl
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at what point was this ever a slam dunk?
Who was it a slam dunk for? I've been saying since last week Hayes walks, now I'm not so sure.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 7:51 pm to tgrbaitn08
I think when the gun is recognized kind of matters. It's almost like since nobody is admitting the presence of a gun, any gun of the 3 there, it happened very quickly. If O'Neal said he had a gun Hayes could have misheard him and thought will had a gun or will said something in response to that and was indeed going get his gun
It's in the prosecutions best interest to play dumb and just not acknowledge it.
It's in the prosecutions best interest to play dumb and just not acknowledge it.
This post was edited on 12/8/16 at 7:52 pm
Posted on 12/8/16 at 7:51 pm to tgrbaitn08
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That's not what you asked. So what you want to know is if Hayes was waving his gun around as soon as he got out of the car, not that he just had it in his hand. You may want to go back and edit your previous post.
Huh?? If he was waving the gun around in a threatening manner then all self defense pretty much goes out the window. If no one saw the gun then obviously this didn't happen. Is it really that hard for you to comprehend that?
Posted on 12/8/16 at 7:52 pm to TigahJay
Why didn't the prosecution establish by testimony who shot RS? They can't, because RS didn't see who shot her and WS was looking at her when it happened and even if he saw it, he is deceased.
Right now, they can't even put the gun in Mr. Hayes' hand, let alone prove he shot anybody. Unless they have test results on his hands they holding back.
Right now, they can't even put the gun in Mr. Hayes' hand, let alone prove he shot anybody. Unless they have test results on his hands they holding back.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 7:53 pm to diat150
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im pretty sure that is whipple and mrs hernandez
This is the Hernandez' and Smiths.
This post was edited on 12/8/16 at 7:54 pm
Posted on 12/8/16 at 7:53 pm to TigahJay
When did it get pulled someone saw this and isn't talking
Posted on 12/8/16 at 7:53 pm to Nado Jenkins83
I agree, it's better if the jury believes Hayes pulls the gun out of his waist, out of no where and just starts popping caps
Posted on 12/8/16 at 7:54 pm to Chad504boy
quote:Said witness also said he was focused on Hernandez dumbass the moments leading up to the shooting
Per closest bi partisan witness will did nothing to deserve to be shot
But leave that part out
Posted on 12/8/16 at 7:54 pm to Napoleon
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Posted on 12/8/16 at 7:55 pm to Rocky4LSU
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Right now, they can't even put the gun in Mr. Hayes' hand, let alone prove he shot anybody. Unless they have test results on his hands they holding back.
Well he's already admitted that much
Posted on 12/8/16 at 7:57 pm to TigahJay
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Huh?? If he was waving the gun around in a threatening manner then all self defense pretty much goes out the window. If no one saw the gun then obviously this didn't happen. Is it really that hard for you to comprehend that?
I don't think you even comprehend what you're asking.
Do you want to know if he was waving it around before he shot or do you want to know if someone saw him pull it out very discreetly and start shooting?
Posted on 12/8/16 at 7:58 pm to TigahJay
Rob Masson ?@robmassonfox8 42m42 minutes ago
Fuller now 'cleaning up' Det Brueggeman's testimony. Says Hayes'.45 held ten rounds
Fuller: The .45 caliber of my client. What's the maximum capacity it can hold.
Det: 11 rounds, 11 bullets.
Caresse Jackman ?@CaresseJ 44m44 minutes ago
Fuller: You can't tell by casings, which shot was fired first?
Det: No.
Caresse Jackman ?@CaresseJ 44m44 minutes ago
Fuller: Have you ever been to a scene where all of the casings weren't recovered?
Det: Yes.
NOW THIS BELOW IS PURE NOPD INCOMPETENCE
Caresse Jackman ?@CaresseJ 38m38 minutes ago
Fuller: Do you know if Justin Ross told any officer he recorded the argument of event?
Det says he mentioned it to a few.
Caresse Jackman ?@CaresseJ 37m37 minutes ago
Fuller: If he did record argument, that might be important to investigation right.
Det: Yes. He may have actually caught act in progress
Caresse Jackman ?@CaresseJ 35m35 minutes ago
Detective says he made an attempt to retrieve video from Justin Ross.
Caresse Jackman ?@CaresseJ 34m34 minutes ago
Fuller: I know you well enough to know if you had that video, you wouldn't let it erase off your phone.
Det: You're correct. Definitely.
Caresse Jackman ?@CaresseJ 34m34 minutes ago
Fuller: Don't you at least wish you had a chance to see it so you could make a determination.
Detective: Yes sir.
Fuller now 'cleaning up' Det Brueggeman's testimony. Says Hayes'.45 held ten rounds
Fuller: The .45 caliber of my client. What's the maximum capacity it can hold.
Det: 11 rounds, 11 bullets.
Caresse Jackman ?@CaresseJ 44m44 minutes ago
Fuller: You can't tell by casings, which shot was fired first?
Det: No.
Caresse Jackman ?@CaresseJ 44m44 minutes ago
Fuller: Have you ever been to a scene where all of the casings weren't recovered?
Det: Yes.
NOW THIS BELOW IS PURE NOPD INCOMPETENCE
Caresse Jackman ?@CaresseJ 38m38 minutes ago
Fuller: Do you know if Justin Ross told any officer he recorded the argument of event?
Det says he mentioned it to a few.
Caresse Jackman ?@CaresseJ 37m37 minutes ago
Fuller: If he did record argument, that might be important to investigation right.
Det: Yes. He may have actually caught act in progress
Caresse Jackman ?@CaresseJ 35m35 minutes ago
Detective says he made an attempt to retrieve video from Justin Ross.
Caresse Jackman ?@CaresseJ 34m34 minutes ago
Fuller: I know you well enough to know if you had that video, you wouldn't let it erase off your phone.
Det: You're correct. Definitely.
Caresse Jackman ?@CaresseJ 34m34 minutes ago
Fuller: Don't you at least wish you had a chance to see it so you could make a determination.
Detective: Yes sir.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 7:58 pm to Rocky4LSU
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Right now, they can't even put the gun in Mr. Hayes' hand, let alone prove he shot anybody. Unless they have test results on his hands they holding ba
Lol he told the police he shot Smith
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