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re: Widespread sightings of drones buzzing sensitive air space all over the world.

Posted on 12/16/24 at 2:19 pm to
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 12/16/24 at 2:19 pm to
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They are the size of a car and up to a school bus. That would cost millions.

Launched from offshore.

Flying over some of the most restricted airspace in the world.

A Russian carrier offshore with their latest jets couldn’t operate over those bases without being shot down.

Yet these pranksters are just ordering Chinese drones from wish.com that kill the batteries on commercial drones, jam ground communications for sheriffs and are undetectable to FLIR.

Some serious cognitive dissonance going on right now.

It’s our beyond top secret tech operating in an unprecedented way for undisclosed reasons over the most populated area in the country or it’s not from around here and there are much bigger questions to be answered.
Posted by MardiGrasCajun
Dirty Coast, MS
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 12/16/24 at 2:33 pm to
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Launched from offshore.


Nope

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Flying over some of the most restricted airspace in the world.


Looking for something.

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It’s our beyond top secret tech operating in an unprecedented way for undisclosed reasons


Agreed…they’re definitely looking for something….nuke or dirty bomb of some kind. Probably not going to tell the public to avoid mass panic in that area. They may be working off of intelligence indicating that area but may not actually be there. I think you’d see a mass population exit if we knew “for sure” it’s in the area. And, once known for sure, they may evacuate the area at that point anyway. I think they’re attempting to avoid a huge panic over something that may not be. I think something is there. Too much effort being put in to find it.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 12/16/24 at 2:44 pm to
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Nope

There are videos with eye witness testimony from sheriffs and journalists documenting them coming from offshore and returning. Not at all suggesting all the incursions are from offshore but the evidence suggests some or many are.

The videos are linked earlier in the thread.

If that’s true there are only three nations possibly capable of that feat and only one who would be allowed to do so. Seems preposterous to think that an amateur operator just rented a barge and no one has noticed it with dozens of USCG patrols apparently working overtime in the area or that the government with spy satellites wouldn’t have identified the point of origin within an hour if it resulted in a military base being closed down and put on high alert.
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Flying over some of the most restricted airspace in the world. Looking for something.

But the part that makes no sense to me is why would we send drones on loiter for hours over Wright-Patterson or multiple bases in the NY/NJ metro area to look for whatever? If the government needed to look for something there they’d just have the pentagon make a call and the place would be swept gate to gate with far better sensors than could presumably be maintained by a drone.

I mean absent an inside job or a splinter group within the armed forces that doesn’t make logical sense that the bases would need to be swept in the first place.
This post was edited on 12/16/24 at 2:46 pm
Posted by touchdownjeebus
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 12/16/24 at 3:06 pm to
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If you choose to believe that a person can estimate the size of a drone in the air reliably then yes that would be expensive. We all know how reliable the public is.


That’s been reported by multiple news agencies. I’m not just pulling shite out of my arse.

The president elect has all but stated this is government.
Posted by MardiGrasCajun
Dirty Coast, MS
Member since Sep 2005
5681 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 3:46 pm to
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There are videos with eye witness testimony from sheriffs and journalists documenting them coming from offshore and returning.


This does not mean they were launched offshore as you stated. They’re probably being launched on land close to shore. They then head out offshore before going inland thus keeping the actual launch site secretive. There are several military areas along the coast.

With all of that said, none of us know….that’s the point.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
16621 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 3:49 pm to
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This does not mean they were launched offshore as you stated.

Some of them are literally beach cameras from resorts.

The videos are taken with nothing but beach between them and the Atlantic.
Posted by MardiGrasCajun
Dirty Coast, MS
Member since Sep 2005
5681 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 3:49 pm to
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But the part that makes no sense to me is why would we send drones on loiter for hours over Wright-Patterson or multiple bases in the NY/NJ metro area to look for whatever? If the government needed to look for something there they’d just have the pentagon make a call and the place would be swept gate to gate with far better sensors than could presumably be maintained by a drone. I mean absent an inside job or a splinter group within the armed forces that doesn’t make logical sense that the bases would need to be swept in the first place.


May be flying in preplanned grid patterns which include the bases. These may be AI operated thus no communications can be jammed.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
11715 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 6:02 pm to
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That’s been reported by multiple news agencies. I’m not just pulling shite out of my arse.

If there’s one thing I’ve learned from this and other recent events, it’s that nobody - not the general public, not law enforcement officials, not elected officials, and certainly not the media - is immune to falling into these viral mass-hysteria traps.

Take Rep. Jeff Van Drew, who went on Fox News and said: “I’m going to tell you the real deal. Iran launched a mothership that contains these drones. It’s off the East Coast of the United States of America. They’ve launched drones.” Hours later the Pentagon shut him down and said pretty unequivocally that Iran has nothing to do with it. Van Drew then admitted, in an off-camera interview, that his “evidence” was circumstantial.

Senator Andy Kim decided to ride along with law enforcement and was posting videos of his drone sightings on Twitter. Two days later he walked it back, saying: “After going out with police to observe reports of possible drones, I was with the help of civilian pilots and others able to do deeper analysis and concluded that most of the possible drone sightings that were pointed out to me were almost certainly planes.”

I’ve seen news articles with photos of “alleged drones” that were obviously helicopters. There’s a video in this thread of a “drone” that appears to be a C-17. Which, by the way, is a little bigger than your average bus at 174’ long.

The FBI said Saturday that out of over 5,000 tips they received since opening their tip line, fewer than 100 were “deemed worthy of further investigative activity.”

All of that to say.. no, I wouldn’t put much stock into the media saying there have been “reports” of drones the size of busses. There have been “reports” of a lot of stuff that’s obviously bullshite.
Posted by Vincenzo Pantangelli
Member since Nov 2024
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Posted on 12/16/24 at 6:05 pm to
Looking for Nukes on the east coast? Trying to kill Trump?
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 12/16/24 at 6:46 pm to
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If there’s one thing I’ve learned from this and other recent events, it’s that nobody - not the general public, not law enforcement officials, not elected officials, and certainly not the media - is immune to falling into these viral mass-hysteria traps.

Yep. There have been a couple of videos shown on newscasts that were 100% not from this recent spate of "sightings". I don't know if corrections were ever issued.

I won't deny that something is probably up, but 90%+ of the supposed sightings that get pushed on social media are bullshite. Some of the accounts doing it have been around in the "UFO/Alien" space a while, too, yet they are still failing to vet the shite they post.
Posted by Nole Man
Somewhere In Tennessee!
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 12/16/24 at 6:49 pm to
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If it’s us, why do this over such a densely populated area and create confusion and hysteria?


Obama
Posted by WWII Collector
Member since Oct 2018
8037 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 6:55 pm to
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Well when they knew it was a Chinese balloon they didn't give a toot either...


Not until like the second or third balloon...

The Biden administration was the worst thing that ever happened to this country...

We are being spied on by our enemies, But hey citizens of the USA... It's ok to be Trans - Joe Biden

Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
60647 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 7:36 pm to
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lostinbr


It’s funny that your common sense post is getting downvoted.
Posted by North Dallas Tiger
United States of America
Member since Mar 2024
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Posted on 12/16/24 at 8:11 pm to
I just want to know the truth.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
66020 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 8:48 pm to
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I just want to know the truth.

Posted by North Dallas Tiger
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Posted on 12/16/24 at 8:56 pm to
walked right into that one
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 12/16/24 at 9:26 pm to
Shellenberger pointing out how the Biden administration spokespeople in DC keep lying and/or contradicting what the military and local officials in these areas are claiming by saying there is nothing unusual going on.

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I don't get the people that think this is 100% nothing. I think psyop is the top candidate for what this is, but I don't think it's a social contagion psyop where it's nothing but talk and conjecture. It seems pretty clear that the US government in one capacity or another has some shiny new high tech assets in the field for some reason.
Posted by touchdownjeebus
Member since Sep 2010
25330 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 10:55 pm to
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If there’s one thing I’ve learned from this and other recent events, it’s that nobody - not the general public, not law enforcement officials, not elected officials, and certainly not the media - is immune to falling into these viral mass-hysteria traps.


Fair enough, lol.
Posted by Kattail
Member since Aug 2020
3944 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 2:11 am to
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Probably. Our govt doesnt seem overly concerned.


Another hoax
Posted by BOSCEAUX
Where the Down Boys go.
Member since Mar 2008
49689 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 5:36 am to
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There are videos with eye witness testimony from sheriffs and journalists documenting them coming from offshore


This is the mysterious part to me. Are we launching these from a sub? A ship would have been spotted by now.
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