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re: Why was Japan able to immediately rebuild Hiroshima and Nagasaki?

Posted on 8/6/22 at 8:36 pm to
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 8/6/22 at 8:36 pm to
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You are using Chernobyl as a baseline in your brain.


Bold of you to assume the average OTer even has a brain
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 8/6/22 at 8:38 pm to
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Must not have been that bad if people still willingly moved/lived there
I remember when South of BR was called "Cancer Alley" and no one wanted to live there. Now people are moving there in droves

I wonder what convinced them to move out of BR?
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 8/6/22 at 8:40 pm to
By the time they cleaned the shite up the radiation was basically gone. It doesn’t linger for years
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
15026 posts
Posted on 8/6/22 at 8:43 pm to
Ok so, we need some OT physicists. Air burst of nuclear weapons reduces radioactive fallout. Much more so than a ground burst. And then these were small bombs with a limited amount of nuclear material. And yes, there were many casualties from radiation sickness in Japan.
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 8/6/22 at 9:35 pm to
They should have nuked fukashima.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
113896 posts
Posted on 8/6/22 at 9:44 pm to
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Makes sense, but still doesn’t explain why the radiation didn’t have a bigger impact than it did.




Read a fricking book.

BTW reading that guy's story, it sounded like he lived through absolute hell for those 4 days.
Posted by Mumbler
Emerald Coast
Member since Aug 2021
161 posts
Posted on 8/6/22 at 9:46 pm to
Moderna showed up on VJ day with the Atomic Bomb vaccine.
Posted by Pepperoni
Mar-a-Lago
Member since Aug 2013
3485 posts
Posted on 8/6/22 at 9:59 pm to
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Ok so, we need some OT physicists. Air burst of nuclear weapons reduces radioactive fallout. Much more so than a ground burst. And then these were small bombs with a limited amount of nuclear material. And yes, there were many casualties from radiation sickness in Japan.
Here you go

Hiroshima and Nagasaki: The Long Term Health Effects

LINK https://k1project.columbia.edu/news/hiroshima-and-nagasaki

Posted by Macavity92
Member since Dec 2004
5981 posts
Posted on 8/6/22 at 10:13 pm to
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"No, I don't feel guilty. We've been killing a quarter of a million a night since March on firebomb raids. More planes and more bombs, but with the same results. I've been used to it."


This is true. The firebombing of Tokyo killed as many as Hiroshima and Nagasaki combined.
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
9449 posts
Posted on 8/6/22 at 11:41 pm to
The Americans killed about a quarter of a million in one night in the first week of March, '45. But LeMay was methodically firebombing every city in Japan, surely killing hundreds of thousands, not over a million. He just hadn't gotten to Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Niigata and a few others by August yet. He was a ruthless bastard.
If the weather was right, he was firebombing. The campaign lasted months.
Posted by sabes que
Member since Jan 2010
10156 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 1:05 am to
Same thing with Dresden, but Germany did that to London first. War isn’t something to be glorified, it’s abhorrent.
Posted by sabes que
Member since Jan 2010
10156 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 1:51 am to
What about the guy who said people actually lived longer in these areas?
Posted by sabes que
Member since Jan 2010
10156 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 2:08 am to
Man you’re so smart, tell us how many nukes will destroy the planet? How many would it take?
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
9449 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 2:40 am to
Coventry, that's the town you're thinking of, I think. London was obviously bombed during the war, but the Coventry raid produced a large number of civilian casualties on one day. I think it was something like 30,000 killed, wounded or missing.

ETA: I'm a mile off on my Coventry causality figure. I just Wikipediad and there were 17 raids btwn Sept and Nov 1940. Total causality figures were probably close to 5,000 to 8,000.


The Dresden raids - they went on all night and part of the day for 2 or 3 days - were like 3 or 4 years after Coventry. But the British and "Bomber" Harris felt like they owed one (more) to the Germans. The Americans were involved in the daylight raids, but by and large, the was a British Bomber Command operation.

They killed a shitload of civilians. Estimates vary, but 40,000 to 60,000 is in the realm of accurate possibilities.
This post was edited on 8/7/22 at 2:58 am
Posted by Reservoir dawg
Member since Oct 2013
14095 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 5:42 am to
Japanese leaders make communist Chinese leaders look like throwbacks.
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