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re: Why the ‘redheaded stepchild’ of renewable energy is poised to rise under Trump

Posted on 2/12/25 at 3:16 pm to
Posted by deltaland
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Posted on 2/12/25 at 3:16 pm to
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which uses technologies like fracking to extract the heat from the earth.


This is how you accidentally release the dark lord Cthulhu
This post was edited on 2/12/25 at 3:16 pm
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
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Posted on 2/12/25 at 3:17 pm to
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the best overall.

It seems to me that the best overall is to have a broad base of electrical generation energy sources: hydrocarbons in all 3 phases, geothermal, nuclear, hydroelectric, hydrogen, solar and wind. There's no reason not to take advantage of solar and wind in windy, sunny places, just as there's no reason to take advantage of falling water, or thermal vents to generate electricity where they are available. It seems like the more diverse the energy sources, the more robust the system.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
10318 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 3:24 pm to
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There's no reason not to take advantage of solar and wind in windy, sunny places


Destroying the landscape and the wildlife on wide swathes of land is one. Make South Texas an eyesore, and turn Arizona into a glossy sheet of solar panels ... or, build two nuke plants with a couple of reactors.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
70565 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 3:29 pm to
Billy Bob Thornton Voice: How many bbl's of oil are needed to build that fricking thing? What's the ROI, in decades, on btu's in vs btu's out? What's the lifespan?
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
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Posted on 2/12/25 at 3:42 pm to
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Destroying the landscape and the wildlife on wide swathes of land is one. Make South Texas an eyesore, and turn Arizona into a glossy sheet of solar panels



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or, build two nuke plants with a couple of reactors.

and build two nuke plants with a couple of reactors.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 2/12/25 at 3:56 pm to
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The biggest downside to wind and solar is location. Due to government subsidies, they put them in places where you never get ROI and it just doesn't work because people think they're helping the environment. The best place for wind and solar is actually just to the west of DFW. Flat with howling winds and scorching sun. It's where the wind belt and sun belt intersect.



I did some controls work related to natural gas feed to a peaking plant between Lubbock and Amarillo (Abernathy, Texas). It was there to provide supplemental electricity as required to a grid that would be primarily supplied via wind. They have multiple windmill farms that you can actually see as you are flying into Lubbock.

They also have a bit of wind production in Hawaii that the wife and I saw during a helicopter tour.
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
17734 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 4:13 pm to
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between Lubbock and Amarillo

You haven't seen wind until you've been up in the High Plains of the Texas Panhandle. I've seen videos of it tipping 18-wheelers over.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 2/12/25 at 4:22 pm to
Oil is renewable too

The earth produces it spontaneously the same way it makes lava or anything else

Even in the deepest part of the ocean where there was never carbon based life we still have methane vents. You libs can’t explain that


Of course oil companies are as much to blame for adopting the “fossil fuel” doctrine back in the day as a way to feel better about themselves just picking a free unlimited resource out of the ground and selling it

Look up the abiotic oil theory to learn more
Posted by Suntiger
STG or BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
34622 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 4:59 pm to
Is geothermal something you can set up anywhere? I thought you had to be close to certain places. Could we just build a geothermal plant in Tallahassee, or does it have to be somewhere close to thermal vents like Hot Springs or Yellowstone?
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
15102 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 6:19 pm to
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Is geothermal something you can set up anywhere?

Not anywhere but there’s a lot of it. The issue is project capital because they’re expensive with current tech and have shite returns, pricey O&M, etc.
This post was edited on 2/12/25 at 6:20 pm
Posted by greenbean
USAF Retired - 31 years
Member since Feb 2019
5745 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 6:28 pm to
There used to be a guy on talk radio on Saturday AM who always talked about geothermal.
Posted by Tr33fiddy
Hog Jaw, Arkansas (it exists)
Member since Aug 2023
1445 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 6:41 pm to
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Look up the abiotic oil theory to learn more


Interesting.... but sounds like total b.s. as heat and rock doesn't produce fossil fuel.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
56924 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 7:03 pm to
It’s not fossil fuel bruh how did dinosaurs get underground
Posted by Tree_Fall
Member since Mar 2021
859 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 7:15 pm to
The "abiotic oil" ideal isn't total bs and was worth looking 50 years ago. That was done and nothing of commercial interest found.

Methane is one of the most abundant compounds in the universe, and only a tiny amount has anything to do with thermocatalytic reduction of biomass (making oil). Unfortunately, nobody has found massive deposits of abiogenic methane on Earth.
Posted by CharlesUFarley
Daphne, AL
Member since Jan 2022
738 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 8:34 pm to
The Navy already has smaller nuclear reactors used to generate both steam and electricity.

Adopt these, use the steam heat for industrial process heating, maybe to convert coal and biomass to liquid hydrocarbons usable in fuel. Use electricity in process with the ability to supply surplus power to the grid.
Posted by LSU713Tiger
Houston, TX
Member since Nov 2012
107 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 11:50 pm to
Am I missing something or does the area between DFW / Amarillo not already have a plethora of windmills, like the most I have ever seen in a concentrated area…Are you proposing adding more?

Edit - Witchita Falls / Amarillo. Barnett is lacking windmills.
This post was edited on 2/12/25 at 11:53 pm
Posted by Tr33fiddy
Hog Jaw, Arkansas (it exists)
Member since Aug 2023
1445 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 11:54 pm to
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It’s not fossil fuel bruh how did dinosaurs get underground


Are you trolling sir?

I mean I've pulled coal out of the earth that literally has sea life embedded in it lol.
Posted by Tr33fiddy
Hog Jaw, Arkansas (it exists)
Member since Aug 2023
1445 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 11:56 pm to
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The "abiotic oil" ideal isn't total bs and was worth looking 50 years ago. That was done and nothing of commercial interest found.

Methane is one of the most abundant compounds in the universe, and only a tiny amount has anything to do with thermocatalytic reduction of biomass (making oil). Unfortunately, nobody has found massive deposits of abiogenic methane on Earth.


Fair enough. But the idea that fossil fuels are renewing themselves is b.s.
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
39843 posts
Posted on 2/13/25 at 12:04 am to
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Is geothermal something you can set up anywhere?


Probably not suited for everywhere but you don’t need an extreme heat source like nearby volcanos for them. The important thing to have is a permeable formation at a desirable depth to generate the heat required. For the simple projects (doublets) we drill 2 wells. Cold water is circulated down one, through the ground and up the other well as hot water.We just finished one of these last month at Charles De Gaulle airport. We are currently drilling one in the middle of Vienna which is expected to spur many more GT projects in that area.

The latest design theory is the “Eavor Loop” which I posted a picture of above. The first one of this type is being constructed in the south of Germany now. This is a more challenging project because you are drilling two mother bores with up to 12 multilaterals out of each that intersect each other at the end. This creates the loop and acts like an underground radiator that creates greater heat and more energy. Several of these projects are in the future planning stages. Some big players like BP and Shell are waiting for this first one to come online to invest.

I (probably like most people) was surprised to learn that the US has more geothermal wells currently than any other place in the world.
This post was edited on 2/13/25 at 12:08 am
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
39843 posts
Posted on 2/13/25 at 12:18 am to
The annual Geotherm conference is happening next week in Offenburg. This will be my first one but I hear the beer flows like hot water there.
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