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re: Why public (urban) schools are the way they are..

Posted on 4/7/25 at 8:17 pm to
Posted by PelicanState87
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Posted on 4/7/25 at 8:17 pm to
The only terrible public schools are those with mostly Black or Hispanic students. And really it's just the Black schools b/c Black culture doesn't value education and bettering yourself.

And at least the Hispanics schools have a better reason to be low performing ... many of them have English as a second language or have no plans to go to college after high school. They have a plan in place to make money doing blue collar work and have less behavioral problems unlike the Black schools
Posted by OweO
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Posted on 4/7/25 at 8:27 pm to
Ideally the cop would have just left and the police department would release a statement that due to the school administration not allowing them to do their job, they would no longer respond to calls from the school.

If something happens its on the administration.
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 4/7/25 at 8:31 pm to
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Ideally the cop would have just left and the police department would release a statement that due to the school administration not allowing them to do their job, they would no longer respond to calls from the school.
with a bomb going off or not?


The cops can't leave an active emergency call because of inconvenience
Posted by OweO
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Posted on 4/7/25 at 8:34 pm to
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with a bomb going off or not?


The cops can't leave an active emergency call because of inconvenience


I know its not realistic. But I would say.. let the principal handle it.
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 4/7/25 at 8:36 pm to
And you would let the terrorists win

This world has suffered enough by your blatant racism without you influencing public policy
Posted by LSUtoBOOT
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 4/7/25 at 9:36 pm to
Were the police there on official business? Was the teacher union apprised of the situation? Were they ever able to locate a scholar in the building? Was this more blacksplaining or copsplaining?
Posted by Marco Esquandolas
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Posted on 4/7/25 at 11:36 pm to
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but the truth hurts most people if you just call a spade a spade.

ISWYDT



Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
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Posted on 4/8/25 at 6:52 am to
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many of them have English as a second language


The parents yes, but most of the kids in Houston speak English and Spanish pretty readily.

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mostly Black or Hispanic students

I've found a better gauge to be the percentage of students that get free or reduced priced breakfasts/lunches. You have places like the Woodlands that are full of rich Mexicans in 800k+ houses, for instance. It also makes it easier to pick the "good" elementary schools that are closer in to town that will be full of your neighbors that build multi million dollar mansions in gentrifying areas that are actually majority Latino (but generally older without kids in school).
Posted by VADawg
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 4/8/25 at 6:57 am to
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That particular principal seems pretty bad. But I think that as a whole, people overblame the teachers and principals for the problems at inner city schools, and underblame the students.


The problem is the culture. Education is very low on the totem pole. Kids who try hard and do well in school are mocked and ridiculed by their own damn families for acting too white.
Posted by choupiquesushi
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Posted on 4/8/25 at 7:35 am to
Uh some of the blame lies with a lack of parent and community accountability.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 4/8/25 at 7:48 am to
Stereotypes exist for a reason
Posted by Bridget O
Kilgarvan
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 4/8/25 at 8:00 am to
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Good on the principal. Our youth don’t need the threat of the 50 marching around their classrooms.


Not too intelligent are you?
Posted by PelicanState87
Member since May 2024
125 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 8:08 am to
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I've found a better gauge to be the percentage of students that get free or reduced priced breakfasts/lunches. You have places like the Woodlands that are full of rich Mexicans in 800k+ houses, for instance. It also makes it easier to pick the "good" elementary schools that are closer in to town that will be full of your neighbors that build multi million dollar mansions in gentrifying areas that are actually majority Latino (but generally older without kids in school).


But still Black middle class and upper middle class kids are more likely to perform closer to the level of Black kids in poverty than their peers of equal socio-economic status. I read studies about that.

I don't know where you live but in Baton Rouge every year every single National Merit Scholar and Finalist is non-Black. It's been that way for decades. National Merit Scholars are disproportionately middle class and higher. There has been many Black kids of the same socioeconomic status in the city but none have reached that level of academic success. Also Baton Rouge Magnet High which is like the #1 high school in Louisiana has been around for like 100 years and had thousands of Black students come thru ... NOT ONE has been named Valedictorian or Salutatorian. In fact the best Black students there are second generation Black immigrants .... not even traditional African Americans.

Hispanics are a little different. They do better than their Black peers but of course still behind White and Asian. It's a culture problem. Black culture is based in anti-intellectualism, laziness, attention-seeking, and debauchery... more so than any other culture. Money don't fix that. Many poor kids have grown up to be doctors, lawyers, etc b/c they had the discipline and mental strength to be that ... money cant buy that.
This post was edited on 4/8/25 at 8:16 am
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