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re: Why is there no luxury airline option?

Posted on 1/21/22 at 3:39 pm to
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
78818 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 3:39 pm to
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You just described first class. Have you never heard of first class?



Which is why it isn't more prevalent.

I flew first class once when I was in college. Free upgrade because they screwed something up.

It was nice, but not nice enough that I would pay the difference.
Posted by OK Roughneck
The Sooner State
Member since Aug 2021
17114 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 3:39 pm to
Bigger aircraft do have more comfort and airlines each seem to have their own seating configurations.
Flew to Brisbane Australia in Premium Economy and it was awesome. I only had one other seat next to me. My seat even reclined into a bed. Better food than the economy had and they served us complimentry champagne.

The picture is the layout of a Qantas 747 I flew on that trip sitting in Premium Economy.

Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
23342 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 3:47 pm to
Some flights to Angola are 90% business class. They are nice.... except for the destination.

Ohhh... and First class is racist.
Posted by 1MileTiger
Denver, Colorado
Member since Jun 2011
1828 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 3:50 pm to
Air travel can be broken down into pretty simple options.

Poor people don't fly, or fly cheap airlines like Spirit and Frontier.

Middle class people buy economy tickets on Southwest, United, American, etc.

Upper middle class buy economy plus for a bit more legroom.

Upper class buy first class/business class tickets on flights.

Middle upper class charter flights, or use private luxury travel services

Upper upper class own or have access to private jets.
Posted by flyingtexastiger
Southlake, TX
Member since Oct 2005
1748 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 3:55 pm to
Because there is no workable business case for it.

It has been tried many times and it always fails because the market of flyers who are willing to pay for the upgrades but can't afford charter or their own plane is not big enough to support the airline investment.
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
26507 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 4:07 pm to
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I think a sizeable amount of people would pay more for this to have a better flying experience. Say take out the middle seat and widen the other 2 seats. 2/3 capacity, more comfort, don’t worry about getting stuck between fatties



What you describe is basically called first class cabin and most flights have them. Also most flights cannot actually sell all of these seats at the first class price and therefore passengers with airline status pay regular fare seats are upgraded to some of these seats. Doubtful an airline could sell a whole plane full on regular routes on a regular basis.

The above suggests that there may not be the market you think there is for the option you laid out. It's pretty fricking expensive to run an airline so you better be sure there is a demand for your niche.
Posted by GoldenGuy
Member since Oct 2015
12694 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 4:10 pm to
As someone who flew regularly single and has flown recently with twin children, the two hours cramped in Coach with 150 other passengers is the least stressful part of the trip.
Posted by Abstract Queso Dip
Member since Mar 2021
5878 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 4:10 pm to
I'll gladly take my crowded 3 hour flight to Denver round trip for 120 bucks over some luxury crap. If I were tall might be different but I'd prolly just make sure I got an aisle seat.
Posted by phutureisyic
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2016
3505 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 4:26 pm to
Posted by H2O Tiger
Delta Sky Club
Member since May 2021
7522 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 4:27 pm to
I love JSX for things like this. Their route map is fairly limited to the west coast and a few destinations out of Dallas however.
Posted by A Smoke Break
Lafayette
Member since Nov 2018
2175 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 4:30 pm to
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This post was edited on 1/21/22 at 4:34 pm
Posted by letsgeauxbrandon
Member since Jan 2022
72 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 4:39 pm to
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Buy two SWA seats. Boom.


LOL. Then the give the seat you didn't scan at the gate to someone on standby. But SW appreciates your donation!
Posted by H2O Tiger
Delta Sky Club
Member since May 2021
7522 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 4:42 pm to
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Flew to Brisbane Australia in Premium Economy and it was awesome. I only had one other seat next to me. My seat even reclined into a bed. Better food than the economy had and they served us complimentry champagne.

The picture is the layout of a Qantas 747 I flew on that trip sitting in Premium Economy.


While I'm sure it was a nice experience, no premium economy seat on any airline becomes a "bed"

This post was edited on 1/21/22 at 6:35 pm
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
39168 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 4:47 pm to
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Do you even NetJet?

No shite. Anyone can buy prepaid fractional cards from a variety of Operators. If you're willing to pay for it.
This post was edited on 1/21/22 at 4:48 pm
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
88019 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 4:55 pm to
quote:

Seems like there would be a market for upper middle class if you created an airline with reduced seating, more leg room, bigger seats, bigger bathrooms, better drink/food service. I think a sizeable amount of people would pay more for this to have a better flying experience.


that's been tried about a thousand times or more, so far it's never worked
Posted by WinnPtiger
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2011
24941 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 4:57 pm to
because most upper middle class families aren’t stupid with their money
Posted by Anfield Road
Home of the Blue Turf
Member since May 2012
1948 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 4:59 pm to
La Compagnie is an airline that only has business class seats.

LINK
Posted by Winnebago Tiger
Member since Aug 2021
152 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 5:33 pm to
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This post was edited on 1/27/22 at 12:56 pm
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