re: Why is the it commonly accepted to stay at work late for appearances?

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Who made it the norm that staying late=hard worker

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Probably some engineer who wants you to think that your world will not begin nor end without his existence.

We work 7-4:15. I get here at around 6:15 and get a lot of shite done just because its easier with the quiet. But I roll the frick out at like 4:05-4:10 every day. Everyone here is about the same, never understood the concept of staying late for appearance, everyone knows you have a family and shite to do, I don't live to work I work to live.

No idea. I'd say efficiency with time should be the most important measure. So many will work hard in those before and after hours, but during the meat of the workday don't do anything which results in a net negative.

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At my last job I got a talking to from one of the owners for always leaving at five. No actual complaints about quality of work or effort, just that it doesn't look like you want to be there if you are out the door right at five.

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I've always hated that shite, especially when it ignores, as many have said, coming in early, or also taking a short or no lunch, or doing work from home later in the evenings, both of which I do consistently and would rather do and be able to get home at a decent time than sitting there for another 30-60 minutes.

I fricking hate clock watchers.

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8 to 5

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Most outdated concept ever. I hope that 8 to 5 dies out at some point in my lifetime.