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re: Why is the Home remodeling industry saturated with shady people?
Posted on 3/11/16 at 12:29 pm to stout
Posted on 3/11/16 at 12:29 pm to stout
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If you only need the bulldozer for a short period of time, it’s probably more economical to rent a machine. Rental rates vary from dealer to dealer and from region to region, but typically run $300 to $400 per day or $1,200 to $1,500 per month
$400 is the cost of 5 guys digging with shovels in one day
how much dirt can 5 guys dig? compare that to how much one man in a dozer can move.....which is greater? What's the cost per cubic foot removal.
Not sure why this is even up for debate....if it were't cheaper then Bulldozers would be out of business as people would just hire ditch diggers
PS: I google things because when someone says that what you are saying is incorrect, I want to show other readers that there is support to my claims.
Also, not including all the other costs ie WComp, foreman oversight, etc.... doesn't matter. It's like not adding friction to a physics problem...as long as you don't for both sides of the equation you can use it as a loose measure.
Posted on 3/11/16 at 12:32 pm to DivotBreath
Ask a plumbing company how much it would cost to run the gas, water, and drain lines to your kitchen.
Posted on 3/11/16 at 1:05 pm to stout
To piggyback off of this thread, what's the best way to go about finding the reputable contractors worth the cost? Angie's List? Stout, help pls.
Posted on 3/11/16 at 1:08 pm to stout
Stout, you seem to have a pretty solid finger on the pulse of the contractor business in SWLA. I am needing something that you may be able to make a recommendation about. Is there somewhere I could shoot you a question?
Posted on 3/11/16 at 1:13 pm to Kujo
I got quoted for a home improvement project at 9k, I replied I wasn't spending more than 4k for said project and immediately received another Email saying they can do it for 4k with some "slight moderations". Got exactly what we wanted, but yea how many people just say ok to the 9k.
Like others have said if people are dumb enough to fall for it of course they are going to keep trying it.
Like others have said if people are dumb enough to fall for it of course they are going to keep trying it.
Posted on 3/11/16 at 1:14 pm to Baers Foot
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to go about finding the reputable contractors worth the cost?
Local lumber yards will tell you if someone is worth a shite. It's how I have always found good subs. That and good subs will recommend other good subs.
Not sure how to go about it as a consumer though.
Posted on 3/11/16 at 1:15 pm to p0845330
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Stout, you seem to have a pretty solid finger on the pulse of the contractor business in SWLA. I am needing something that you may be able to make a recommendation about. Is there somewhere I could shoot you a question?
I will try but just a warning I mostly work for banks these days on their foreclosed properties. Been a while since I dealt with the public or new construction.
This post was edited on 3/11/16 at 1:23 pm
Posted on 3/11/16 at 1:19 pm to RandySavage
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got quoted for a home improvement project at 9k, I replied I wasn't spending more than 4k for said project and immediately received another Email saying they can do it for 4k
You were pleased in the end? I wouldn't have hired the guy. If he was wanting to frick you in the beginning, what makes you think that he wouldn't end up fricking you in some other way? It shows the nature of the person. He's not an honest craftsman, as it's not about integrity, it's about "getting paid"
Posted on 3/11/16 at 1:22 pm to stout
I thought we were talking about people in the building trades in general, not just contractors. I know you've heard the stories of tools "walking off" of job sites and guys getting paid without finishing the work. I've never known of as many instances of theft and dishonest dealings in any other area of commerce.
Posted on 3/11/16 at 1:34 pm to Aux Arc
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I know you've heard the stories of tools "walking off" of job sites
I wish I had all of the tools back that laborers have stolen from me over the years.
Posted on 3/11/16 at 1:43 pm to stout
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Local lumber yards will tell you if someone is worth a shite
That's how I found my framer.
Just by luck, and he really saved the design.
Posted on 3/11/16 at 1:47 pm to Kujo
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You were pleased in the end? I wouldn't have hired the guy. If he was wanting to frick you in the beginning, what makes you think that he wouldn't end up fricking you in some other way? It shows the nature of the person. He's not an honest craftsman, as it's not about integrity, it's about "getting paid"
I was and I only did it because the price was right and he had recently done some work on a neighbor's house and did a good job, or at least a job they were satisfied with. Had I had no prior information on him I wouldn't even have responded to his original Email.
Posted on 3/11/16 at 2:18 pm to Kujo
This is a few suggestions. First, make sure the contractors you are dealing with are legit, insured, etc. Ask around about people before you hire them. Become a regular at a hardware store.. Its always good to get intel on what contractors owe a lot of money or who caused homeowners to have liens on their home, etc. Go visit the parish's building inspection department.. You can always find out who is trustworthy, who are the type to try to always get over on shite, who you have to watch out for when it comes to meeting code, etc.
Plumbing, IMO I think Roto Rooter is the best way to go. They have a name to protect & the only problem I ever had was with one of the guys who was sent to me.. He gave me his personal cell and was trying to hustle business under the table.. Telling me that next time I have a problem I don't have to call the office, just call him and he could come out for cheaper than if I would call the office, but about 6 months later he no longer worked there and was trying to round up business for himself..
Become a regular at your hardware store, get to know the parish building inspector.. and people who work in office. Between those two sources you can find out what contractors owe lots of money, who has caused homeowners to have a lien on their homes, who tries to avoid getting permits (they are usually trying to hide something) or what contractors you have to watch out for in terms of cutting corners, etc. The best are the ones who stay busy and hard to get.. Or you at least have to wait, but since people want to get shite done yesterday they often get caught up in who can do it for them now.
Ive also found that the reason a lot of people become painters, does flooring, dry wall, etc is because they can make a living without taking a drug test. You also want to find out who the better contractors sub out.. If they trust someone then chances are they are okay to deal with.. I know a guy who builds rental duplexes. Whoever he uses, you can bank on it they will be the cheapest people who are dependable.. but thats as for as it goes. There are a lot of shady people out there.. A lot.. you just have to stay up with people, etc.
Plumbing, IMO I think Roto Rooter is the best way to go. They have a name to protect & the only problem I ever had was with one of the guys who was sent to me.. He gave me his personal cell and was trying to hustle business under the table.. Telling me that next time I have a problem I don't have to call the office, just call him and he could come out for cheaper than if I would call the office, but about 6 months later he no longer worked there and was trying to round up business for himself..
Become a regular at your hardware store, get to know the parish building inspector.. and people who work in office. Between those two sources you can find out what contractors owe lots of money, who has caused homeowners to have a lien on their homes, who tries to avoid getting permits (they are usually trying to hide something) or what contractors you have to watch out for in terms of cutting corners, etc. The best are the ones who stay busy and hard to get.. Or you at least have to wait, but since people want to get shite done yesterday they often get caught up in who can do it for them now.
Ive also found that the reason a lot of people become painters, does flooring, dry wall, etc is because they can make a living without taking a drug test. You also want to find out who the better contractors sub out.. If they trust someone then chances are they are okay to deal with.. I know a guy who builds rental duplexes. Whoever he uses, you can bank on it they will be the cheapest people who are dependable.. but thats as for as it goes. There are a lot of shady people out there.. A lot.. you just have to stay up with people, etc.
Posted on 3/11/16 at 2:40 pm to Kujo
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Why does this industry have more than other industries?
You do not need even a high school education to do this work. So obviously they never took an ethics class....
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