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re: Why is LSU BOS involved in cancelling classes

Posted on 1/10/20 at 2:10 pm to
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 1/10/20 at 2:10 pm to
We will never do the big things right if we can't do the small things right.

But this is an example of doing little things right. The school made the wrong call and it was corrected.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 1/10/20 at 2:31 pm to
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So they should just let the people they supervise make the wrong decisions?


1) How do you know it's a "wrong" decision? Just because someone may not agree with it, doesn't mean it's wrong.

2) If people are making the wrong decisions, maybe they need to be replaced.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41677 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 2:33 pm to
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But this is an example of doing little things right. The school made the wrong call and it was corrected.


how do you know this was the wrong call?

This is overbearing by a bunch of political appointee tards.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/10/20 at 2:35 pm to
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How do you know it's a "wrong" decision?


Because I have a functioning brain. It doesn't take a rocket surgery doctor to figure out this game is going to have a major impact on the student body and faculty.
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If people are making the wrong decisions, maybe they need to be replaced.



Maybe they will be. How do you know? But do you want people replaced based on one decision? Pretty easy to see you don't manage anything
This post was edited on 1/10/20 at 2:37 pm
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41677 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 2:39 pm to
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Pretty easy to see you don't manage anything


Actually, the opposite.

I work in a place where when I make managerial decisions, if the senior partners don't agree with them, we discuss them. they NEVER go over my head and tell my reports, hey, your direct manager was wrong, here is what we are doing.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 1/10/20 at 2:40 pm to
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Actually, the opposite.


Of course, like every OT poster in history. Sure hope you are more rational at your actual job

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if the senior partners don't agree with them, we discuss them. they NEVER go over my head and tell my reports, hey, your direct manager was wrong, here is what we are doing.

How do you know this didn't happen?

This is such a weird thing to melt about

The only logical conclusion is that it's because you're a Houston transplant that has to shite all over LA every chance he gets to justify hid decision to leave.
This post was edited on 1/10/20 at 2:42 pm
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
61582 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 2:49 pm to
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how do you know this was the wrong call?
because I have common sense
Posted by boudinman
Member since Nov 2019
6101 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 3:01 pm to
There currently isn't a President of the University to make the decision. F King Alexander is already gone. There is an acting/interim person but until the BOS hires someone they make the calls. Not only is the Championship game Monday, it's the same day that JBE is sworn in to serve as governor another 4 years. JBE's appointees now control the BOS, that's why Alleva and F King were shown the door.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41677 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 3:04 pm to
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The only logical conclusion is that it's because you're a Houston transplant that has to shite all over LA every chance he gets to justify hid decision to leave.


Again, actually the opposite. I'm from LA, moved to Houston, moved back. And I've seen what good government and good management looks like.

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How do you know this didn't happen?


Well, there was a vote at the BOS today. So clearly, they went over the school admin's heads.

Otherwise,

1) The school admin would have announced the decision

or

2) The announcement today would have discussed firing the school admins for insubordination.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41677 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 3:05 pm to
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There is an acting/interim person but until the BOS hires someone they make the call


That's the opposite of how effective organizations operate. No surprise though.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
38233 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 3:09 pm to
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That's the opposite of how effective organizations operate. No surprise though



are you a freshman or a sophomore this year?
Posted by Dead End
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
21237 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 3:12 pm to
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I don't think it requires the BOS, but I think it's the prerogative of the BOS if it wishes to. Everyone involved with the university ultimately answers to the BOS. If F. King didn't want to cancel classes, the BOS sure as hell did.

ETA: Any student worth a damn didn't care or need either entity's permission to get blind drunk Monday night and piss off on Tuesday's classes, though.



Spot on.

Also, King can eat a bag of dicks.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
61582 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 3:12 pm to
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Again, actually the opposite. I'm from LA, moved to Houston, moved back.
did you move back for an admin position at a large state university by any chance?
Posted by Jp1LSU
Fiji
Member since Oct 2005
2542 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 3:19 pm to
Because they just authorized a two day paid vacation for 20,000 state employees. Has nothing to do with students and classes
Posted by Anaximander
3524 Third St New Orleans, LA
Member since Jun 2018
3412 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 3:20 pm to
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The State Constitution grants authority to the Board of Supervisors because it is state funded.

If you you don't like it....go to a Private University.



If the board were to regularly meddle such as this a school could lose accreditation.

Yes, this is AMAZINGLY minor but the BOS still shouldn't be doing it because they are only doing it to make political points. You let the Administration handle it, which they would. The BOS just wanted to look important.
This post was edited on 1/10/20 at 3:21 pm
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58629 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 3:21 pm to
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but that's Harvard's decision to make, not a bunch of appointed political people.

they are a bunch of appointed political people that are appointed to supervise the University. They literally are the decision makers of the University.
Posted by Anaximander
3524 Third St New Orleans, LA
Member since Jun 2018
3412 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 3:38 pm to
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they are a bunch of appointed political people that are appointed to supervise the University. They literally are the decision makers of the University.



No, they are supposed to provide guidance but NOT make decisions. SACS investigations puts schools on probation that do otherwise. No, not on stuff this minor but things done with the process of the Board making the decision.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41677 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 4:00 pm to
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are you a freshman or a sophomore this year?


I'm more intelligent than most of JBE's and Jindal's political appointees on the BOS.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41677 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 4:01 pm to
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Because they just authorized a two day paid vacation for 20,000 state employees. Has nothing to do with students and classes


How do they handle it when the school closes for a storm?
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41677 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 4:02 pm to
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No, they are supposed to provide guidance but NOT make decisions. SACS investigations puts schools on probation that do otherwise. No, not on stuff this minor but things done with the process of the Board making the decision.


I'm glad there is one other intelligent adult in this discussion.
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