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re: Why is it a faux pas to inquire about cause of death?

Posted on 4/14/14 at 1:42 pm to
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/14/14 at 1:42 pm to
I don't really see why it's that big of a deal. I would like to know because I think education is the way we grow. Others feel that keeping things hidden and secret helps, but I don't see why how it helps anyone.

If the guy/gal offed themselves maybe we can look back on patterns in their behavior that will help us prevent others from following that same path, especially if it was a family member of mine. I would tell everyone that I could. A lot of people don't think like that though.
This post was edited on 4/14/14 at 1:44 pm
Posted by TIGER2
Mandeville.La
Member since Jan 2006
10504 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 1:48 pm to
It could also be helpful to others. Don't do XYZ cause it could kill you,that's what ole Clevite died from.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 4/14/14 at 1:50 pm to
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What did they try to imply as to the cause of death?
Have you learned nothing from this thread?



Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 1:51 pm to
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Yeah. My best friend from HS committed suicide when he was 20, and his family covered it up and lied about it, which just made the whole thing suck even worse than necessary.


Jesus.

There's really no reason to go that far. It makes the situation even worse and I don't get why they would want to live that lie for as long they can.
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
28039 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 1:52 pm to
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I would like to know because I think education is the way we grow.
Is that really why you want to know?
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
6802 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 2:01 pm to
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Why is it a faux pas to inquire about cause of death?
What did they try to imply as to the cause of death?
Have you learned nothing from this thread?

Faux outrage at faux pas for inquiring about faux cause of death.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
74574 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 2:02 pm to
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Message Posted by boom roasted Because it's none of your damn business.


In an obituary every fricking important detail about them is laid out, but not a cause of death? Seems like the family is trying to be coy sometimes.

I don't need in depth details, but end the obit with "frick cancer" or something to let me know.
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 2:09 pm to
my assumption is if cause of death is not listed in an obit, its either suicide or murder.

I have dealt with this twice in the last 3 months, where someone I have known has died and no cause was listed. I never asked, I just assumed it was suicide.

And I do think friends and family should know, as you are going to offer different levels of support based on what happened to the person.
Posted by NOSA
Member since Jan 2004
9942 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 2:12 pm to
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Are you this dumb?



This. It's none of your business and completely rude to ask. If they want to let you know they will tell you. Amazing to me people don't see the other perspective on this. Every situation is different and satisfying your curiosity isn't what is best for the family which is the only thing that really matters.
This post was edited on 4/14/14 at 2:17 pm
Posted by Grit-Eating Shin
You're an Idiot
Member since May 2013
8508 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 2:13 pm to
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Yeah. My best friend from HS committed suicide when he was 20, and his family covered it up and lied about it, which just made the whole thing suck even worse than necessary.
Right. I've known two guys my age (35 now) who died suddenly over the past few years, and no one every knew how. We knew it was not suicide, but it just leads to more speculation (drugs, etc.), which isn't what I would want if I was their family.
Posted by hardhead
stinky bayou
Member since Jun 2009
5746 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 2:13 pm to
the more you know?
Posted by Mr. Tom Morrow
Cosmic Ray's Starlight Cafe
Member since Jun 2012
6847 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 2:14 pm to
Honestly, when I see a young person die, I want to know why for several reasons even though I know it isn't any of my business.

1. Someone posted a posters recent death here which immediately gets my attention. Then when his age was posted, it made me curious, which I believe is human nature.

2. When a young person dies, it typically isn't because of heart disease. Someone else mentioned in his thread on the MSB that they were hoping it wasn't drug related because he's talked about mixing alcohol and other stuff on this board before. I've never seen him post, so I have no idea what the guy was talking about, or if it's true.

3. If it's true, I'd want it posted in the hopes that it might help even one person on this website. Many posters here glorify drug use and maybe it would make them think twice or seek help.

4. I think it brings closure to some people knowing a cause, and again is just human nature.

I hope this post isn't misunderstood, I truly feel bad for people that post these types of threads and I know all too well, the sadness it brings.
This post was edited on 4/14/14 at 2:18 pm
Posted by Monk
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
3660 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 2:16 pm to
God or bad, everyone will get their chance one day to draft an obit however they want to draft it or to have another provide the service for them.

To each his own.
Posted by Corkfather
Houston
Member since Sep 2007
19750 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 2:18 pm to
Someone on here died recently? Who?
Posted by Mr. Tom Morrow
Cosmic Ray's Starlight Cafe
Member since Jun 2012
6847 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 2:20 pm to
A thread on the MSB right now. Really sad since he was apparently well known here on this board.
Posted by lsu711
Member since Sep 2003
14380 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 2:21 pm to
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Its private, obituaries aren't a police report.


What about an obituary is private?
Posted by rickyh
Positiger Nation
Member since Dec 2003
12749 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 2:25 pm to
In the case of accidental death, most people already know. Some people die of aids or suicide. Close family members are not openly going to admit or talk about losing someone under these circumstances. People who have cancer or die of a sudden illness, again, most people know about it and they openly talk about it. Circumstances is the main reason why some deaths or not mentioned.
This post was edited on 4/14/14 at 2:26 pm
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
13860 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 2:27 pm to
When a young person dies, it's most likely not from disease or some other natural cause. If a 20 year old dies from their own doing, either voluntarily (suicide) or involuntary (drugs, drunk driving) I would assume the family would want to be as secretive as possible. If they died from an accident, such as a skydiving accident, no reason to keep that a secret.
Posted by Mr. Tom Morrow
Cosmic Ray's Starlight Cafe
Member since Jun 2012
6847 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 2:29 pm to
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Some people die of aids or suicide. Close family members are not openly going to admit or talk about losing someone under these circumstances. People who have cancer or die of a sudden illness, again, most people know about it and they openly talk about it. 


This is pretty accurate. My opinion on suicide, which many probably disagree with, is that it should openly be discussed. Mental illness is really something serious and I can't understand why people refuse to talk about it. It's only after the person is gone, then suddenly regret sets in and people always question what if.

If talking about it prevents even one death, it's worth it in my opinion.
Posted by tigah0001
Member since Oct 2009
111 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 2:42 pm to
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My opinion on suicide, which many probably disagree with, is that it should openly be discussed.

I lost an immediate family member recently to suicide.

I don't mind people knowing that. The problem I found is that once you told someone their curiosity kicks in. They want to know if they were depressed (well obviously they were), how they did it, who found the body, are you sure it wasn't murder, where they on medication, etc.

My family and close friends know all the details, I think it is a little disrespectful for someone to pry into sensitive information while the family is mourning. Just knowing it is suicide should be enough. The rest of the information is none of their business.
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