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re: Why don't long haul trucks have their own lane?

Posted on 9/10/18 at 11:40 am to
Posted by Derrick From Texas
Sacramento
Member since Aug 2016
357 posts
Posted on 9/10/18 at 11:40 am to
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Why don't long haul trucks have their own lane


You are dumb!!!
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46686 posts
Posted on 9/10/18 at 11:40 am to
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It works better that way.

But more of them play by the rules of the road when driving (on average) than we do here so you can drive whatever speed there and we can't trust our morans to do so here.




I miss driving in Germany. Almost four years of amazing traffic flow.

Then I came back to the shite show that is american drivers.

I've driven in Germany, Spain, Scotland, Australia, Jordan, Israel, and Kuwait...and US drivers are the absolute worst by a HUGE margin.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33146 posts
Posted on 9/10/18 at 11:41 am to
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If you've ever been outside your local burg then you'll understand that trucks in Europe can't use the fast lane in many areas on freeways.


For good reason. Hard to do that in Louisiana when so much of our highway network is only 4 lanes wide. RV's, vehicles with trailers, big rigs, and anything over a Class 5 rating need to be limited to the right two lanes only when we eventually get our highways widened.
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
33054 posts
Posted on 9/10/18 at 11:41 am to
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’s a sign for roads in Europe where they drive on the opposite sides.
doesn't 95% of Europe drive on the right?
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33146 posts
Posted on 9/10/18 at 11:43 am to
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I miss driving in Germany. Almost four years of amazing traffic flow.


They have good lane restrictions and slower traffic does actually keep right. It makes the highways less volatile (and safer) for everyone.

But they do have severe traffic problems just like we do in a lot of areas.
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
33054 posts
Posted on 9/10/18 at 11:43 am to
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IMO, I-10 should be a minimum of 6 lanes wide (8 or 10 in Baton Rouge and NOLA), with trucks limited to the right two lanes of traffic only.

Hasn't it been shown repeatedly that adding Lanes has a zero or negative effect on traffic due to induced demand
Posted by CaptainsWafer
TD Platinum Member
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 9/10/18 at 11:44 am to
I’m guessing the sign is actually from the UK. A lot of Europe drives in the right.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Member since Feb 2011
57015 posts
Posted on 9/10/18 at 11:45 am to
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slower traffic does actually keep right


Main thing they have going. They dont just hang out in the left lanes because they want the extra comfort, they keep an eye on the rear view, and dont have meltdowns when someone flashes their lights behind you
Posted by AA77
Member since Jan 2016
3874 posts
Posted on 9/10/18 at 11:47 am to
Cool, what’s your funding for this?
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33146 posts
Posted on 9/10/18 at 11:47 am to
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you mean like the basin bridge where they always stay in that lane ?


They are supposed to. That may be one of those stretches that remains 4 lanes wide for a long time. We'd get a lot of accidents involving big rigs that would end up closing the highway for hours and hours.

When LSP enforces speed limits and lane restrictions on that stretch, they have fewer accidents. They eventually get complacent and stop enforcing both until we get another catastrophic accident.

I also think that in Baton Rouge, clear digital signage should be used to instruct truck traffic to get off I-10 E and take the old bridge around when traffic is tied up at rush hour. We can't really do that properly until Airline Highway is widened though.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33146 posts
Posted on 9/10/18 at 11:51 am to
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Hasn't it been shown repeatedly that adding Lanes has a zero or negative effect on traffic due to induced demand


Those studies always recommend widening only when capacity enhancements are needed. It doesn't always reduce traffic time, but it does move more traffic for any given time frame. To the individual driver, it doesn't make a huge amount of difference. System-wide, it makes a tremendous difference.

That's an important feature in Louisiana, where alternative routes to I-10 and I-12 are limited and freight traffic takes those routes by default.
This post was edited on 9/10/18 at 11:52 am
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46686 posts
Posted on 9/10/18 at 11:51 am to
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But they do have severe traffic problems just like we do in a lot of areas.


True. But even getting caught in a Stau isn't as bad as your typical US traffic jam.

I'd just settle for the morons around here learning what a zipper merge is.

Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33146 posts
Posted on 9/10/18 at 11:52 am to
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I'd just settle for the morons around here learning what a zipper merge is.



This. That would be amazing if people knew how to handle that.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
38229 posts
Posted on 9/10/18 at 11:54 am to
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Why don't long haul trucks have their own lane?



ok, you pay for it
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 9/10/18 at 11:55 am to
I’ve always thought large metro areas should have windows of time when 18 wheelers can’t come through.

Rush hours
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
17170 posts
Posted on 9/10/18 at 12:03 pm to
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We already don't have enough lanes for the traffic we have. So, take away a lane and make it just for certain vehicles?





So basically make I-12 and I-20 1 lane for trucking and 1 lane for everything else.

Posted by The Quiet One
Former United States
Member since Oct 2013
12169 posts
Posted on 9/10/18 at 12:05 pm to
One reason is difference in speed among various trucks. If I’m hauling an empty or only have a bare chassis, I can boatrace any truck with a full load of 70-80,000 pounds going uphill. I’m not gonna sit behind him doing 25 mph when I can pass him at 65 mph.

Biggest problem is truck companies not paying drivers enough. The dregs of society take the job. There’s a world of difference between drivers and professionals. It sucks we all get lumped in with the tards, lard asses and general troglodytes. Hard to blame passenger car drivers bitching, though, because I see truckers doing dumb shite all the time, too.
Posted by The Quiet One
Former United States
Member since Oct 2013
12169 posts
Posted on 9/10/18 at 12:08 pm to
Most cities have bypass routes.

But deliveries still need to be made in the city. Unless the city mandates delivery times (which affects work hours), there will always be trucks there in rush hour.
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 9/10/18 at 12:11 pm to
Yeah...but trucks are usually the cause of the biggest traffic issues during those times.

In Nashville, it’s pretty much a guarantee that a big rig will overturn somewhere in/around town between 3 & 4 every Friday.
Posted by SEC. 593
Chicago
Member since Aug 2012
4416 posts
Posted on 9/10/18 at 12:18 pm to
Was coming to mention this.
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