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re: Why does construction take so long?

Posted on 6/1/17 at 7:41 am to
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
15104 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 7:41 am to
quote:

In China, a 30-story building can be completed in only 15 days


this is at best an exaggeration.
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 7:42 am to
quote:

In China, a 30-story building can be completed in only 15 days

bullshite, or they are made out of bamboo and rocks.
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
26233 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 7:43 am to
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Why does construction take so long?


border wall
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
45198 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 7:44 am to
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I watched a video of them tearing down and building an interstate over pass in 24 hours.
Doesn't seem possible but I believe you. Unreal.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
184571 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 7:45 am to
Permitting and inspections during the process slow stuff way down.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
184571 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 7:48 am to
quote:

this is at best an exaggeration


Yea they are putting up prefab buildings in 15 days so this story isn't counting the fabrication time or the time to finish the inside.
Posted by LSUfan0420
Lake Chuck
Member since Jan 2007
1295 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 7:48 am to
lots of reasons have been listed that are typically the main reasons, such as environmental regulations, existing infrastructure being part of the surroundings of new infrastructure, unions.

but the real reason it takes so long?...you guessed it...Frank Stallone !

Posted by BLIZZAKE7
BRLA
Member since Apr 2005
6266 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 7:49 am to
quote:

In China, a 30-story building can be completed in only 15 days



this is 100% bullshite
Posted by wheelr
New Iberia
Member since Jul 2012
6229 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 7:49 am to
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They are easy to spot. There is typically 12 of them standing around watching 1 guy do the job


People have specific jobs that they are trained and certified in.

Sometimes you have to wait on a coworker to do something before you can do your job.

I've worked on government projects. In general the problems aren't really with the guys on the ground but with management and regulations.
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
20404 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 7:49 am to
Based on my current home renovation, there is also the issue of every worker disppearing to fish/hunt/eat crawfish at every possible opportunity. They must work a staggering 15 or maybe even 20 hours a week.
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 7:52 am to
quote:

a 30-story building can be completed in only 15 days


No one is counting for the time it took to be fabricated off site.


quote:

New buildings seem to linger half-built for months or years, with construction workers often nowhere to be found.


There could be hundreds or thousands of reasons for this.

quote:

The U.S. Has Forgotten How to Do Infrastructure


Nah, the government has just made it impossible to do it in a timely fashion.
Posted by tonydtigr
Beautiful Downtown Glenn Springs,Tx
Member since Nov 2011
6849 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 7:55 am to
From the Visit Baton Rouge website.
quote:

The tallest capitol in the U.S., the building is 450 feet high with 34 floors. The Louisiana State Capitol Building was completed after only 14 months in 1932 and stands on a 27-acre tract. The building cost a modest $5 million to complete.


This could never be done today. WTF happened?
Posted by Tigris
Cloud Cuckoo Land
Member since Jul 2005
13226 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 7:59 am to
quote:

In China, a 30-story building can be completed in only 15 days.



Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 7:59 am to
There's no doubt that the government is inefficient, and the process could be speed up, but the reason places like China can get stuff done so much faster is working conditions. Outside of the US and Western Europe workers are still worked damn near to death.
Posted by SlapahoeTribe
Tiger Nation
Member since Jul 2012
12722 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 8:00 am to
They are STILL working on that Stabs restaurant on Jefferson near me. I have no clue what in the hell is taking them so damned long.

After doing some research it looks like they bought the building in March 2014; and construction started sometime last summer!
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
49203 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 8:01 am to
It has a lot to do with the type of workers, from top to bottom really. There isn't much incentive in construction, especially if you're a contracted employee that has to look for work every time a job ends.

If construction contracts were incentive based, things would be a lot different. Like, say each employee that's been there from beginning to end gets X amount of dollars for the job finishing early or on time, then things would probably get finished.

However, a lot of contractors get paid a certain amount each hour for the employees on the job, so things kind of drag out so they can bill the customer more.

I know cb&i used to get like, for conversation purposes, $50/hr for a welder and $150 per diem for each welder. So, they would pay the welders $40/hr and $120 per diem. They were never in a hurry to finish jobs bc they were racking up money. Sometimes, they'd even lose work, but they still got theirs, so it was no big deal.

Posted by Marlo Stanfield
Member since Aug 2008
2305 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 8:03 am to
I'll tell you right now the biggest issues we have in our industry (industrial construction) are safety and the spoiled workers we have that were created by safety. Ask anyone who works in plants or refineries and I guarantee you they will say the same thing. What would normally take 15 mins takes a day due to safe work permitting, possibly confined space evaluation and designation and then permitting for it, you can't tie off to this to do this task because it isn't signed off on yet so that delays this other thing from getting done. It goes on and on and on. Workers work 30 mins and then break for 10 in the hotter months.
Posted by Supermoto Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2010
10973 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 8:05 am to
quote:

In China, a 30-story building can be completed in only 15 days.

Stopped reading after this.
Posted by tonydtigr
Beautiful Downtown Glenn Springs,Tx
Member since Nov 2011
6849 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 8:10 am to
quote:

They are STILL working on that Stabs restaurant on Jefferson near me. I have no clue what in the hell is taking them so damned long.

After doing some research it looks like they bought the building in March 2014; and construction started sometime last summer!


Don't know about the actual construction delays, but there was a delay based on an easement by prescription of land. Apparently a fence was built on the property years ago by a neighbor and they didn't have the area for parking that they originally thought, so the new owner had to purchase a house in Bocage to acquire more property for adequate parking.
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 8:14 am to
quote:

this is at best an exaggeration.


It's a flat out lie. That article is like someone's wife that watched a DIY show and then asked her husband why he couldn't do a complete kitchen remodel in 30 min.
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