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re: Why do we need alcohol distributors?

Posted on 8/27/19 at 4:01 pm to
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 8/27/19 at 4:01 pm to
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What do you mean? Different distributors have the same product but distribute it to different areas of the same state?



Yes.

I also added more above.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 8/27/19 at 4:03 pm to
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The big boys get the added benefit of incentivizing the distributors to keep their product well stocked and pushed while making it harder for smaller breweries to get their product similar exposure.


Beer distribution is a different animal. It's basically as if Anheuser busch, et al owned the distributor. It's much easier for smaller producers on the wine and spirits side.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 8/27/19 at 4:06 pm to
That's nuts.

quote:

eta-ATF will actually come in and check the bottles now and then for the proper stamps. 

They even have an IR light or some such to tell if the bar is refilling bottles. ie-Reusing those with the proper tax stamp, filled from non stamped. 

And they have to destroy the label on empty bottles.


This is fairly standard though.
Posted by mwlewis
JeffCo
Member since Nov 2010
21795 posts
Posted on 8/27/19 at 4:09 pm to
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Because the manufacturers dont want to deal with 100,000 little mom and pop gas stations and liquor stores

They would rather deal with just a handful of distributors


This.

For any manufacturer is several industries they save a lot of money of having their own workforce handling every single sale from first contact to close of the sales, order entry, fulfillment, and post order duties by having a rep/distribution network. I work for manufacturers representative agency and am so glad i only deal with distribution and not every contractor or end user.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61781 posts
Posted on 8/27/19 at 4:13 pm to
I just want small breweries to have their chance to sell direct to stores and bars and not have to be involved in the politics of the distributor game.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11842 posts
Posted on 8/27/19 at 4:28 pm to
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Because politicians brothers-in-law need jobs too.


John McCain's wife was loaded because of the entire distribution scheme.
Posted by Higgysmalls
Ft Lauderdale
Member since Jun 2016
8017 posts
Posted on 8/27/19 at 4:31 pm to
So at say Albertsons they probably have 300 different brands of alcohol and wine. Are you really saying that Albertsons should make 300 different orders to different manufacturers.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 8/27/19 at 4:32 pm to
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John McCain's wife was loaded because of the entire distribution scheme.


Joe Kennedy as well
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11842 posts
Posted on 8/27/19 at 4:39 pm to
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So at say Albertsons they probably have 300 different brands of alcohol and wine. Are you really saying that Albertsons should make 300 different orders to different manufacturers.


I hate to break it to you but many if not most brands of alcohol you see in stores are owned by same company. No other products in grocery stores need law enforced distribution schemes to work.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11842 posts
Posted on 8/27/19 at 4:40 pm to
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This.

For any manufacturer is several industries they save a lot of money of having their own workforce handling every single sale from first contact to close of the sales, order entry, fulfillment, and post order duties by having a rep/distribution network. I work for manufacturers representative agency and am so glad i only deal with distribution and not every contractor or end user.


But, the market created that. Not politicians.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58624 posts
Posted on 8/27/19 at 5:01 pm to
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Because the manufacturers dont want to deal with 100,000 little mom and pop gas stations and liquor stores
bullshite.....a ton of manufacturers want to distribute their own product. I'm sorry AB doesn't want to but you know what....they would have a choice to use distributors.....why don't other manufacturers have the choose to self distribute?


BTW...it is coming in LA.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 8/27/19 at 5:07 pm to
quote:


So at say Albertsons they probably have 300 different brands of alcohol and wine. Are you really saying that Albertsons should make 300 different orders to different manufacturers.



No. I’m saying just the opposite
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 8/27/19 at 5:13 pm to
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I just want small breweries to have their chance to sell direct to stores and bars and not have to be involved in the politics of the distributor game


Doesn’t Abita and Parish sell direct to stores and bars? I’m pretty sure Eliot’s buys direct. Maybe it’s because they are considered a wholesale warehouse. I’m not sure how that works.
Posted by USMEagles
Member since Jan 2018
11811 posts
Posted on 8/27/19 at 5:21 pm to
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quote:
John McCain's wife was loaded because of the entire distribution scheme.



Joe Kennedy as well


Say what you want about the Democratic Party, that's two prominent members right there, making sure we all get our alcohol.

Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58624 posts
Posted on 8/27/19 at 5:48 pm to
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Doesn’t Abita and Parish sell direct to stores and bars? I’m pretty sure Eliot’s buys direct
does Eliot's have a distributor license? If not that would be illegal.
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
51408 posts
Posted on 8/27/19 at 6:03 pm to
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Could say this about a ton of products.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 8/27/19 at 6:47 pm to
For the little guys, sure. It should be a choice, not mandatory.

But anyone who wants widescale distro will go with a distributor. Not sure even guys like parish want to self distribute with their expansion plans.

For local or even somewhat regional, it's doable, but you reach a point where it isn't.

To get into real stupid laws, until September 1st of this year, breweries in Texas can't sell beer to go. The ones that did before are classified as brewpubs as a loophole but that limits production caps.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 8/27/19 at 6:55 pm to
quote:


For the little guys, sure. It should be a choice, not mandatory.

But anyone who wants widescale distro will go with a distributor. Not sure even guys like parish want to self distribute with their expansion plans.

For local or even somewhat regional, it's doable, but you reach a point where it isn't.


At least someone gets it. ole Caramrod seems a little slow
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
135029 posts
Posted on 8/27/19 at 6:57 pm to
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So I have to bring my own balloons on game day, or can you provide?


I hope you like draft
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58624 posts
Posted on 8/27/19 at 7:13 pm to
quote:

Not sure even guys like parish want to self distribute with their expansion plans.
that's not the argument or law. Imagine if it was mandatory to distribute yourself.
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