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re: Why do so many small businesses fail?

Posted on 4/22/20 at 1:17 pm to
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/22/20 at 1:17 pm to
Underestimating overhead, overestimating demand, poor location, lack of emphasis on marketing would be the most significant factors that I can think of off the top of my head.

Even if a startup accounts for all of the above factors correctly, some simply don't have enough capital to wait for their business to catch traction. They underestimate how long it will take to become profitable.
This post was edited on 4/22/20 at 1:19 pm
Posted by UGATiger26
Jacksonville, FL
Member since Dec 2009
9128 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 1:18 pm to
I would venture to say that most fail to do the proper research and planning beforehand.

Starting is a business is more than just putting up a sign and expecting people to walk through the doors.

A LOT of homework needs to be done if you want to be successful. Even if you have a good idea or product.
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 4/22/20 at 1:18 pm to
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That is the #1 reason I want to start a small business eventually. Working for other people is for the fricking birds.


Preach
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
38241 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 1:19 pm to
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It takes a while for a small business to build up cash reserves as well


In some cases, even if you have cash reserves, it only takes a few (If not one) customers to default or cancel on you and...poof you're done.

hell, I've seen healthy businesses carrying heavy AR that fail.
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
48188 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 1:20 pm to
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Why do so many fall off after their 5th year.


We are about to be in our 5th year. So outside of a pandemic ruining the economy, maybe a owner has seen a little success and has become complacent. Next would be the owner gets burnt out on being the owner. Another may be that the owner hasnt done due diligence on the proper way of running a business and gets hit with a big tax bill. If it is a partnership maybe the relationship has soured. Another thing is I just don't see how some of these random business can make it. Like a random coffee shop or something in a strip mall.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 4/22/20 at 1:23 pm to
So 20% of businesses fail between years 5 and 10.

If you make it to year 5, by which point half have failed, you pretty much know the basics of how to run a business.

The ones that fail between years 5 and 10, to me, usually have one of three things happen:

1) A significant cost increase that they are not able to handle or pass along. A lot of people sign a commercial lease for 5 years, and the landlord wants an insane rent increase that they can't afford, yet the costs of moving and starting over in a new spot are also too high.

2) Competition has caught up to them and they no longer enjoy the market share / pricing power they once did.

3) Their services / products have become stale in the marketplace, and they are unable to adjust and create new, better things.

#2 happened to a business that a family member of mine is involved with. They opened a location, it did awesome. About a year later, they opened a second location about 15 miles away from the first. They still did great and the places were far enough apart that the second spot didn't steal from the first one. But within a couple of years, 7 competing companies had opened up in their area. It became saturated. In year 6, when the second location had their lease come up for renewal, they decided to close that location and go back to one spot. Now they are in year 8 and while they are doing ok, the one location still isn't doing as well as it did when they first opened 8 years ago. The number of competitors has gone from 7 to 3, though.
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 1:30 pm to
I’d tend to lean towards buying an existing business make improvements and expand.

No reason to try an reinvent the wheel.
Posted by Screaming Viking
Member since Jul 2013
5792 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 1:30 pm to
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- failing to scale properly
- failing to pivot/adjust to market demands (adjust offerings)


really close to my experience. I am one of 4 that started/runs a company that is now 20 years in. rough spots have been for us:

hiring
scaling
training
stomach slow years especially when new hires are made.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 4/22/20 at 1:30 pm to
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Why do so many fall off after their 5th year.


They get to an inflection point a lot of times - scale and continue or stay the same and grind. Owning a business is the best of times and the worst of times. A lot of folks can do it for a while but many just say “F” it and go make the same money as an employee without many of the headaches.

Owning your own business doesn’t mean automatic richness. It likely means you take home average income for your skill set and experience on a good year. Some people wise up. The rest of us keep grinding.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49487 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 1:31 pm to
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Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
74667 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 1:34 pm to
I can’t speak to small businesses like restaurants but I do know a lot about what causes small excavation businesses fail.

1. Buying too Equipmemt much too fast. By this I mean they buy several hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of earthmoving equipment then only to later realize their income stream won’t allow them to make their payments.

And

2. Not properly maintaining their Equipmemt. By this I mean they’ll spend $200-$300 thousand on a machine then fail to do simple things like greasing it daily or cleaning the mud out of the undercarriage. Or even worse they don’t perform regular PM services or take fluid samples. The result of all this is unscheduled downtime and massive repair bills they can’t afford. What’s really bad is this sort of thing happens all the time and is totally avoidable.
Posted by Jack Daniel
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Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 4/22/20 at 1:49 pm to
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about 20% fail in their first year, and about 50% of small businesses fail in their fifth year

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About 80% of businesses with employees will survive their first year in business

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About 50% of businesses with employees will survive their fifth year in business


Is that how math works?!?!?
This post was edited on 4/22/20 at 1:56 pm
Posted by hawaiiantiger
KANEOHE, HI
Member since Jan 2010
365 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 1:56 pm to
The demand changes over five years. I don't want to buy a pager or typewriter. Those small businesses that sold them probably did on for 6or 7 years and then close doors. Most business can't or don't change with the times.
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
48188 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 1:59 pm to
quote:

I’d tend to lean towards buying an existing business make improvements and expand.

No reason to try an reinvent the wheel.



sounds easy, but thats a good way to be done in 5 years. so many businesses are built on relationships that the owners have and their knowledge.
Posted by dallaslsufan
Dallas
Member since Sep 2004
415 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 2:44 pm to
Easy answer...Most know the trade/service very well...But they do not know how to run a business...Simple as that. Just because you are an excellent mechanic doesn't mean you will make an excellent mechanic shop owner. I see it all the time.
Posted by The Sea Otter
AR-Kansas
Member since Mar 2019
583 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 2:46 pm to
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Why do so many small businesses fail?


Posted by shaqtaw
Member since Oct 2009
6872 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 3:05 pm to
you sound like you've never owned a business.

Wrong.
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 3:07 pm to
Because your vegan cupcake store is novel but nothing anyone wants long term.
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 3:09 pm to
I should have added in an industry you already have experience with.

An existing partnership ....An employee that’s learned the business, somebody ready to retire ect ect
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
32430 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 3:13 pm to
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Like a random coffee shop or something in a strip mall.


I’ve never understood how coffee shops make it. I’ve spent hours in there and leave having only spent $3. I guess the drive thru is the big money maker but none of them can be doing really really well.
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