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re: Why are universities with strong athletic curricula, looked down upon by some....

Posted on 12/5/17 at 6:33 am to
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 12/5/17 at 6:33 am to
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I also think that many of these huge contracts for coaches many be backed by pledges from boosters.


They may, or may not be. It doesn't really matter in the long run. What matters is getting a good coach on your team. A coach making 2 million at a smaller school that has a good team is sought out to go to a larger school.

The schools have realized that if they add 3.5 million to what they are paying, they go from making 40 million per year to 125 million per year. It just makes financial sense.

As far as what you are saying about the Football curriculum, I get it. It doesn't matter what the listed major is. The kid is there to play ball. Kids that are not very cerebral are steered toward a major, and classes that would not challenge a real academic kid.

They go to class, but are there to get their shot at the NFL. Hence, the football curricula.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
48733 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 7:59 am to
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....while schools like Julliard are lauded?

Both specialize in teaching entertainers. Similar careers can lead to unbelievable wealth for the top few, and offer many moderate paying service jobs, while most end up pursuing other things. Both tap into Billion dollar industries.

I think you can compare the Football curriculum at schools like Alabama, LSU, and Ohio St. to the curricula at schools like Julliard.





The comparison is flawed. Juliard has a specific purpose stated as follows:

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Founded in 1905, The Juilliard School is a world leader in performing arts education. The school’s mission is to provide the highest caliber of artistic education for gifted musicians, dancers, and actors from around the world so that they may achieve their fullest potential as artists, leaders, and global citizens. Located at Lincoln Center in New York City, Juilliard offers undergraduate and graduate degrees in dance, drama (acting and playwriting), and music (classical, jazz, historical performance, and vocal arts). Currently more than 800 artists from 44 states and 42 countries and regions are enrolled at Juilliard, where they appear in over 700 annual performances in the school’s five theaters; at Lincoln Center’s Alice Tully and David Geffen halls and at Carnegie Hall; as well as other venues around New York City, the country, and the world. Beyond its New York campus, Juilliard is defining new directions in global performing arts education for a range of learners and enthusiasts through The Tianjin Juilliard School and K-12 educational curricula.


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The school’s mission is to provide the highest caliber of artistic education for gifted musicians, dancers, and actors from around the world so that they may achieve their fullest potential as artists, leaders, and global citizens.


LSU is a public university that states the following
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LSU is committed to providing exceptional, affordable, and accessible higher education, and sharing our student outcomes in as transparent a manner as possible.


If LSU were instead The Louisiana School for Athletics, you would have a point. And the fact that some people look at it that way now is a testament to the underachievement of the University, though I think they have generally been moving in the right direction, long term, relative to the historical performance of LSU.


Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
30082 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 8:08 am to
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LSU has more players in the NFL than any other college program.


How many can actually read and write and how many actually graduated from LSU?
Posted by madmaxvol
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 12/5/17 at 9:09 am to
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Plenty of people go to college only to learn football.


I would wager that they all had to declare a field of study outside of Football. I've never heard of anyone receiving a B.A. in Football.
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