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re: Why are the standards for women physical test in the military different from men’s

Posted on 5/10/20 at 8:56 am to
Posted by fishfighter
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Posted on 5/10/20 at 8:56 am to
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Because men and women are totally equal. Silly boy.


Not when it comes to war. I did shite in the marines that I know 99% of women would never be able to do. Dam far left is making our service members weak.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
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Posted on 5/10/20 at 9:10 am to
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I did shite in the marines that I know 99% of women would never be able to do.
Like using a piss tube.

Posted by fishfighter
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Posted on 5/10/20 at 9:17 am to
Back in my day, we just had a hole in the ground to piss/shite in.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 5/10/20 at 9:32 am to
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Back in my day, we just had a hole in the ground to piss/shite in.
The 'shite trench' is still a thing. You haven't lived until you've squatted over an open trench with 10 of your closest buddies.
This post was edited on 5/10/20 at 9:33 am
Posted by LSUtoBOOT
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 5/10/20 at 10:37 am to
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Why are the standards for women physical test in the military different from men’s


Because you don’t have to be able to lift a man to prove you can make a great sandwich in the mess hall.
This post was edited on 5/10/20 at 10:38 am
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 5/10/20 at 10:51 am to
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As a vet myself, this is petty and shitty. You look out for your brothers and sisters, not shun them.



Shitty? Shitty is being a complete bitch 24x7 and running down everyone who has a day less time in service or time in grade as her because she has the stripes.

This bitch's mouth could have been on fire and I don't know one person who served with her who would have pissed in her moth to put it out.

I agree MOST of the time you have to have one another's back, not her though and for damn good reason.
Posted by tketaco
Sunnyside, Houston
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 5/10/20 at 11:56 am to
1) you're way late in the argument because the Army has ACFT.
2) ACFT has only 3 categories based on MOS none of which differentiate between gender.
3) 88M has the same standard as Infantry and entry level Special Forces holy shite!!

Army ACFT Standards
This post was edited on 5/10/20 at 12:02 pm
Posted by tketaco
Sunnyside, Houston
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 5/10/20 at 11:59 am to
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Prior to COVID, the failure rate on the ACFT in basic was 35% for males and 86% for females.


Which I will yeild this. The Army has pulled back on 100% implementation of this because of the women failing. Infact, you can take the ACFT, fail, and it won't count against you this year because they're still making changes.
Posted by NWarty
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Posted on 5/10/20 at 2:10 pm to
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Which I will yeild this. The Army has pulled back on 100% implementation of this because of the women failing. Infact, you can take the ACFT, fail, and it won't count against you this year because they're still making changes.



I’m of the opinion that it won’t be implemented because the failure rates amongst the National Guard and Reserves will be astronomical. Running, doing push-ups and sit-ups is easy and doesn’t require a gym or home set-up. Never Mind the fact that it would take a ridiculous amount of time to test for and given the limited amount of UTA’s (4-hour training blocks), there’s no way this is feasible for the Reserve component.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 5/10/20 at 2:50 pm to
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The Army has pulled back on 100% implementation of this because of the women failing.


False.

The Army pulled back because gym closures make it nearly impossible to train on half the events.
Posted by tketaco
Sunnyside, Houston
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 5/10/20 at 2:54 pm to
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False.

The Army pulled back because gym closures make it nearly impossible to train on half the events.


You and I must have seated on different battalion calls then. Because mine occurred in Jan before the whole COVID closure started to happen.
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
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Posted on 5/10/20 at 2:55 pm to
Are you serious?
Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
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Posted on 5/10/20 at 5:37 pm to
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It will get people killed.


Posted by JudgeHolden
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Posted on 5/10/20 at 6:26 pm to
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210lb


Isn’t that right at the top end of weight for the Corps? Most of the recruits in my son’s class were a lot smaller than that.
Posted by BigturboSRTboy
Augusta GA
Member since Apr 2009
195 posts
Posted on 5/10/20 at 6:29 pm to
Covid 19 is a good excuse, the fact is a vast majority of females are failing. My unit did this and 2 females passed the leg tuck. We will see if they make more changes but my money is standards will change for non combat mos.
Posted by geaux88
Northshore, LA
Member since Oct 2003
16355 posts
Posted on 5/10/20 at 7:23 pm to
PT standards have been different for females for many many years. It only became an issue when they started allowing split tails into front line infantry-type situations. It is in fact bullshite to have female Rangers and Infantry types. I have no problem in rational service where they can perform as well as men and contribute, but front line combat units (especially ones that require carrying heavy packs, weapons and ammo) is just bullshite.
Posted by geaux88
Northshore, LA
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 5/10/20 at 7:28 pm to
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Isn’t that right at the top end of weight for the Corps? Most of the recruits in my son’s class were a lot smaller than that.


For most of the military, it's not how BIG you are. It's how FAT you are that is the issue. A 6'4" dude at 210 that is swole as frick and can run and fight all day is way different than a 5'9" dude that is 210 that is a little jiggly and has high body fat.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
80566 posts
Posted on 5/10/20 at 7:34 pm to
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Why are the standards for women physical test in the military different from men’s


To the extent the standards ever were different, you can bet it’s bc liberals. The same people that would have a transsexual compete against girls in sports will insist on lower standards for girls.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 5/10/20 at 7:39 pm to
it doesnt take brawn to operate a drone.

they should have different standards for clerks, nurses, et cetera.

they wont all be navy seals.
Posted by slacker130
Your mom
Member since Jul 2010
8647 posts
Posted on 5/10/20 at 7:46 pm to
I've always supported equal pay for equal work. If we all get paid the same, why must I perform MORE work on a PT test than my female counterpart? Seems sexist. We should all do the SAME amount of work, or pay should be prorated accordingly.
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