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re: Why are school killings almost inherently American?

Posted on 2/15/18 at 3:13 pm to
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/15/18 at 3:13 pm to
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So given the OP, the question is why so often in America compared to the other 35 or however many countries he listed?
Correct. I then added this to encapsulate the entire world

Here is a combiled list of all "school massacres" documented throughout the world, as defined here


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This list of school massacres by death toll contains those cases that occurred at kindergartens, schools and universities, as well as their affiliated buildings. If the perpetrator was a member of the school staff and the victims primarily his colleagues the case is not included here, but added to the list of workplace killings. School massacres are counted as incidents involving at least two deaths, excluding the potential death of the perpetrator.


USA- 39
China-18
Canada-5
Germany 3-
Finaland-3
Brazil-3
Israel-2
Russia-2
Thailand-2


Not a single other country with more than 1.


But once again, we know some countries wont report as accurately as others. But if one still wants to completely bury their head in the sand act blame it on the data again go ahead

LINK





I own guns, and I hunt. But I dont want to simply beat my chest and refuse to discuss why these school incidents seem to be so unique to our country because I am mad at the other side for making it about guns. What if is about guns?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112444 posts
Posted on 2/15/18 at 3:16 pm to
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SELF-REPORTED school killings.

Holy frick I hate you imbeciles. You go find your blog of the day with the same tired data that is tainted and then run around crying about "chirren"
Anybody else holding their breath knowing CPTBengal is going to provide the correct data?

I know I am.
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 2/15/18 at 3:18 pm to
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Anybody else holding their breath knowing CPTBengal is going to provide the correct data?

I know I am.


how can data be correct if self-reported?

let me put this in terms you can understand.

leBron uses the NBA to report his stats.
Cpt self-reports his stats for his NBA play.

Cpt has stats that are better than Lebron. Do you think this is accurate?
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 2/15/18 at 3:18 pm to
The hilarity of it all is he's calling me an idiot when he doesn't realize that I'm actually against the reactionary regulation of firearms. I'm just not nitpicking the data to try and downplay the increase in violent killings on high school campuses in the US.
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/15/18 at 3:20 pm to
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We're talking about violence on secondary education campuses committed by fellow (or former) students for the most part.



most of those raped in countries like S. Africa know their attackers and are other students in schools.

Most girls dont even go to school for fear of being raped.

shite, even Oprah;s school was just a child rape dungeon.

Seriously, how are you this uninformed?

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If we want to talk about the overall safety of the communities in South Africa and the US


Im literally talking about the schools. Dont even get started in Muslim countries where women cant go to school.

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mass killings on campus by fellow students are off the charts in the US vs. its peers. Nothing more.



they arent off the charts. again, data is about standards and consistency.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 2/15/18 at 3:21 pm to
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What if is about guns?

Semiautomatic rifles with "high capacity" magazines have been available for civilians to purchase since at least the 1940s. And if anything, you had fewer restrictions on ownership, not more.
The dreaded AR15 has also been available to civilians since the early 60s.
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 2/15/18 at 3:21 pm to
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I'm just not nitpicking the data to try and downplay the increase in violent killings on high school campuses in the US.


im not downplaying anything. I just want real numbers to be used.

the problem is you have a teacher like the OP who is too stupid to understand that a FB infographic is not an answer.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68123 posts
Posted on 2/15/18 at 3:24 pm to
Love that you are calling a teacher stupid while proving just how much an a-hole LEO you are.
This post was edited on 2/15/18 at 3:25 pm
Posted by Cap Crunch
Fire Alleva
Member since Dec 2010
54189 posts
Posted on 2/15/18 at 3:24 pm to
quote:

they arent off the charts. again, data is about standards and consistency.

Ok, let's forget about the other countries for a second. Are you trying to say that school shootings in the US aren't a problem?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104884 posts
Posted on 2/15/18 at 3:25 pm to
quote:

Semiautomatic rifles with "high capacity" magazines have been available for civilians to purchase since at least the 1940s. And if anything, you had fewer restrictions on ownership, not more.
The dreaded AR15 has also been available to civilians since the early 60s.
Yeh I agree. We have had a huge rise in these incidents since 2011, yet nothing got easier regarding purchasing guns.


I think the easy access to guns def helps our number get as large as it is, but it is not the root cause on why these killings happen at such a higher rate here
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 2/15/18 at 3:27 pm to
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Love that you are calling a teacher stupid while proving just how much an a-hole LEO you are.




Im not a LEO either. You must have missed when I would post daily bad cop stories...sad.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68123 posts
Posted on 2/15/18 at 3:30 pm to

Apologies. I guess I do have you confused with another LEO a-hole.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104884 posts
Posted on 2/15/18 at 3:32 pm to
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Apologies
Dont apologize to him

He has been incorrectly calling me a teacher this entire thread
This post was edited on 2/15/18 at 3:33 pm
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
38847 posts
Posted on 2/15/18 at 3:36 pm to
Cptbengal posting like a crazy lunatic? Frankly, I'm shocked.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 2/15/18 at 3:37 pm to
quote:

We have had a huge rise in these incidents since 2011, yet nothing got easier regarding purchasing guns.


As I said earlier. That’s when the proliferation of constant communication between students really began to take off.

The closest thing I had to that in HS was AIM chatrooms but we were still on dialup and there was one computer in the house so it wasn’t 24/7 barrage of insults or the ability to be inspired by others, etc.
Posted by crazyLSUstudent
391 miles away from Tiger Stadium
Member since Mar 2012
5860 posts
Posted on 2/15/18 at 3:38 pm to
Completely agree. The sensationalism around mass shootings is definitely driving the rate at which this occurs.
Posted by Mahootney
Lovin' My German Footprint
Member since Sep 2008
12033 posts
Posted on 2/15/18 at 3:41 pm to
There's an article describing how media should handle these incidents to discourage future attention seekers from doing this.......
And the media breaks all of the rules every time.

Don't show his face.
Don't reveal his name.
Don't spend much time talking about it.
Don't do 24/7 coverage.
Don't reveal step by step details of how it was done.

Don't give anyone else any motivation to do it.

Bastards do it every time.
Posted by Cocotheape
Member since Aug 2015
4242 posts
Posted on 2/15/18 at 3:43 pm to
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too stupid to understand that a FB infographic is not an answer.


Got Trump elected
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 2/15/18 at 3:46 pm to
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Got Trump elected



the WALL got him elected.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 2/15/18 at 3:46 pm to
quote:

Got Trump elected


Sigh. For another thread, but Hillary Clinton shitting on PA, OH, & WI got Trump elected. Not some facebook memes.
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