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re: Whose got a Rolex?

Posted on 4/10/20 at 3:29 pm to
Posted by BlindTiger7
Houston
Member since Sep 2016
2702 posts
Posted on 4/10/20 at 3:29 pm to
GMT - Master II

Yea I like it
Posted by MI LSU
NYC
Member since Oct 2009
1136 posts
Posted on 4/10/20 at 3:37 pm to
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next year will focus on the Explorer II.


Do you have any guesses on how they change it? I have the black one, and I love the splash of orange color and size, but I don’t like the floating hands or the metal bezel.

I’ve been thinking of ditching it for the Submariner, but I’m on the fence. Maybe I hold out for new Explorer II...
Posted by BigPapiDoesItAgain
Amérique du Nord
Member since Nov 2009
2990 posts
Posted on 4/10/20 at 3:53 pm to
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Do you have any guesses on how they change it?

Speculation is adding a ceramic bezel, which to my view is a mistake for this watch. Which I could see happening since they discontinued the black ceramic bezel GMT Master II 116710LN. Some would say each of these things has nothing to do with the other and could well be correct. The SS bezel certainly sets the Expl II apart. But, I'm more a fan of the SS bezel on the SS Daytonas vs the black ceramic on the current ones.
Posted by MI LSU
NYC
Member since Oct 2009
1136 posts
Posted on 4/10/20 at 4:14 pm to
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The SS bezel certainly sets the Expl II apart


It's the one thing about it that drives me nuts--not the SS, but rather the combo of SS + etched-on numbers. It just looks unnatural to me for some reason--I'd be okay with one or the other (either SS + no etching, or ceramic + numbers)

If you're right and they actually did the ceramic and kept everything else, i'd be ecstatic. That would be my grail watch.
This post was edited on 4/10/20 at 4:16 pm
Posted by Weaver
Madisonville, LA
Member since Nov 2005
27798 posts
Posted on 4/10/20 at 4:46 pm to
My dad gave me the Rolex my mom gave him for their first anniversary. They divorced when I was a few years old, but I lost my mom in 2008 so now it means a lot more to me. My dad gave it to me when I turned 30 in 04. Not a big watch guy either.

Oyster Perpetual.
Posted by highcotton2
Alabama
Member since Feb 2010
9658 posts
Posted on 4/10/20 at 5:08 pm to
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Obtuse, do you know anything about the Undone brand.


Undone is a company started by a guy in Hong Kong named Michael Young. He has restored several Rolex bands for me and it is truly amazing what he can do.
He does work that Rolex is not willing to do. I ripped the solid end link off of a Rolex 16660 Seadweller band and Rolex said that it was not replaceable I would have to buy a new band. Michael fixed it and it looked and felt brand new when it was returned to me. He is a magician.

If you have a band with worn links he will fix the pins and weld up the edges of the links where they have been rubbing and it will be like new when you get it back.
This post was edited on 4/10/20 at 8:29 pm
Posted by BigPapiDoesItAgain
Amérique du Nord
Member since Nov 2009
2990 posts
Posted on 4/10/20 at 5:26 pm to
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Oyster Perpetual.

That's a great piece...especially love the vintage ones. I dig the no date and simple baton hands and stick markers. I have a 114300 - 39 mm w/ white dial. Only thing I wish Rolex had added to that model is an easy link.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
27049 posts
Posted on 4/10/20 at 7:27 pm to
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Do you have any guesses on how they change it? I have the black one, and I love the splash of orange color and size, but I don’t like the floating hands or the metal bezel.

I’ve been thinking of ditching it for the Submariner, but I’m on the fence. Maybe I hold out for new Explorer II...


As BigPapi mentioned a ceramic bezel is the most obvious answer but everyone is just speculating.

Me personally I wish they would go the opposite way and stay with the steel bezel but change it to the 1655 aka Freccione or Steve McQueen bezel. However, Rolex rarely looks back and when they do it is usually a small detail like when they brought the orange arrow back to the EXP II.



Grand Seiko apparently likes the current Explorer 2 bezel as evidenced by the SBGN005





Posted by BigPapiDoesItAgain
Amérique du Nord
Member since Nov 2009
2990 posts
Posted on 4/10/20 at 7:42 pm to
I love that GS GMT and have toyed with the idea of picking one up. I've gone back and forth between seriously looking for an Oyster Quartz, SBGN005G and not getting either at all (right now I'm on the neither).

The McQueen 1655 is a looker - of course he knew how to pick 'em...a birth year 5513 is on my list to own at some point in time as well.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
27049 posts
Posted on 4/10/20 at 8:01 pm to
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Obtuse, do you know anything about the Undone brand. Basecamp model looks good for a low priced watch.


As mentioned this is the brand co-founded by Michael Young the Bracelet Magician, I think the other founder is named James. Michael is known for tightening up old clanky Rolex bracelets to better than new condition along with being one of the first to really master laser welding to fix gouges in cases.

I don't know a ton about Undone and have never held one. There are certainly better specced watches on paper for the price but they have solid movements and it is fair to buy totally on looks at the price point. Undone borrows heavily from prominent watch brands but doesn't usually copy complete watches but usually mixes them in. Compare the Basecamp you pictured to the seconds, minutes and 24 hour hand of the Rolex 1655 I posted above.

If you like one of their watches I say go for it. It is cool how you can customize them. If it were me buying a Basecamp I would get the blue degrade' dial with the sterile bezel (I think the progression from blue in the center of the watch to black outside is interesting) with the black date window.

From what I have read on the forums the ones that own them seem to like them.

They market with a very interesting balance while they seek out ink from the more traditional watch media they also advertise in a very fashion watch orientation with GQesque look book pictures.

If you like the look from all accounts there is a decent watch under there with what appears good customer service. As for servicing the movement when it comes time it would be much cheaper to source a new Seiko NH35 (easy and cheap) and have a watchmaker switch them out or do it yourself if you already have the skills or are semi-adventurous.
This post was edited on 4/10/20 at 8:05 pm
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 4/10/20 at 8:05 pm to
I have one from my grandfather that he got when he retired from Exxon some 20 years ago
Posted by tilco
Spanish Fort, AL
Member since Nov 2013
13682 posts
Posted on 4/10/20 at 8:08 pm to
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I don't understand the appeal of high dollar jewelry watches.

Wearing them to a business meeting with me gives me a bad first impression that I try to get past. Wearers of flashy watches mean "grab your wallet" and "watch out" in business deals with the person wearing one in my old, backwoods mind.

Same for gold chains.


I’m not sure these are comparable. Who the frick wears a gold chain anymore?!?
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
18189 posts
Posted on 4/10/20 at 8:31 pm to
Obtuse 1 I am looking for a silicone band with a clasp for my Milgauss do you prefer Or have one brand you like?
Thanks
Posted by JD10
Member since Aug 2010
980 posts
Posted on 4/10/20 at 8:39 pm to
https://rubberb.com/ Rubber B
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
18189 posts
Posted on 4/10/20 at 8:46 pm to
Thanks
Dang not the color except in the swim skin looks like a nice product
Posted by MI LSU
NYC
Member since Oct 2009
1136 posts
Posted on 4/10/20 at 9:01 pm to
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Me personally I wish they would go the opposite way and stay with the steel bezel but change it to the 1655 aka Freccione or Steve McQueen bezel.


Damn, that looks legit. Is that raised? For some reason, it looks better than mine, but I can’t put my finger on why...
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
27049 posts
Posted on 4/10/20 at 9:09 pm to
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I am looking for a silicone band with a clasp for my Milgauss do you prefer Or have one brand you like?


Rubber B or Everest. I prefer Everest because they are softer but yet thicker and they seem to more quickly sit the watch correctly on your wrist. Neither is cheap but the fit to the watch case is excellent in both.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
27049 posts
Posted on 4/10/20 at 9:12 pm to
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Damn, that looks legit. Is that raised? For some reason, it looks better than mine, but I can’t put my finger on why...


Probably just the picture the numbers on the 1655 bezel are engraved and painted. It is easy to see on pictures of ones with significant wear where the paint is missing from a number or two.

I love the 1655 but with the prices topping $20K for a good example they aren't "cheap" like they used to be.
Posted by olemc999
At a blackjack table
Member since Oct 2010
13690 posts
Posted on 4/10/20 at 9:31 pm to
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I'll make my sons battle for which one they inherit. Then I'll end up giving my daughter the Rolex either way.


And this is the reason women are entitled.
Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
Member since Jun 2004
31022 posts
Posted on 4/10/20 at 11:32 pm to
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Most of the rest of my accumulation is in this picture.


I used to have that many ties, and my nephews would tell you I have that many pair of cargo shorts.
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