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re: Who here was whipped as a child but doesn't whip their own children now?

Posted on 8/15/18 at 12:59 pm to
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 8/15/18 at 12:59 pm to
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Are you saying that a child's response to spanking is not a form of that child "reasoning"?


No.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63786 posts
Posted on 8/15/18 at 1:00 pm to
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Your kids will grow up to be assholes.

Guaranteed.


How can you guarantee that? My 12 year old daughter is no where near being such.

That's as absolutely asinine as me saying that "your child will grow up to be an abusive a-hole because you spanked them. Guaranteed."

You're generally better than this.
Posted by gamatt53
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 8/15/18 at 1:00 pm to
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Really, you're gonna say with a staright face you can reason with a one year old?


You spank 1 year olds? Wtf
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 8/15/18 at 1:01 pm to
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You're generally better than this.

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DisplacedBuckeye
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Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72160 posts
Posted on 8/15/18 at 1:01 pm to
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I hated the long skinny ones because they would wrap all the way around my legs. That shite hurt! She could swing that thing about 10 times per second too. I will never forget how bad that stung



That is the stuff of nightmares, baw. frick I hated the skinny switch.

One day I came back in with this little stick, maybe 6 inches long. Nonna went out and found her own.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63786 posts
Posted on 8/15/18 at 1:01 pm to
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No.


Good, so you admit that they can be reasoned with at that age. Thanks.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63786 posts
Posted on 8/15/18 at 1:02 pm to
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You're generally better than this.
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DisplacedBuckeye






Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 8/15/18 at 1:02 pm to
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You spank 1 year olds? Wtf

Read the thread. Or don't.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 8/15/18 at 1:03 pm to
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How can you guarantee that?


Experience, knowledge, and application of the two.

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My 12 year old daughter is no where near being such. 


Neat. Good luck with the next few years.

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That's as absolutely asinine as me saying that "your child will grow up to be an abusive a-hole because you spanked them. Guaranteed." 


Nope.

Your wording is the problem.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112898 posts
Posted on 8/15/18 at 1:04 pm to
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Also, at "reasoning with" children who haven't developed the cognitive ability to reason effectively.

So what does spanking do exactly?
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63786 posts
Posted on 8/15/18 at 1:04 pm to
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Really, you're gonna say with a staright face you can reason with a one year old?

I agree that his age range is pretty exaggerated, but there is definitely an age where you cannot reason with children.


So why spank them at these ages? If they cannot "reason", then they cannot understand that they're being "hurt" for doing something that they should not have done. Spanking then is just an expression of anger by the parent.

I said before that I was not philosophically opposed to spanking, but if it's being used because the child can't "reason", I may have to change my mind. It just sounds like abuse then.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 8/15/18 at 1:04 pm to
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Good, so you admit that they can be reasoned with at that age.


That isn't what that means.

It's unfortunate that you choose to reason with your children when you are apparently incapable of doing so yourself.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 8/15/18 at 1:05 pm to
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So what does spanking do exactly?


If-then.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 8/15/18 at 1:05 pm to
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If they cannot "reason", then they cannot understand that they're being "hurt" for doing something that they should not have done.


Wrong.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63786 posts
Posted on 8/15/18 at 1:06 pm to
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Experience, knowledge, and application of the two.


Ok.

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Neat. Good luck with the next few years.



Right, because if she had been spanked at four years old, that would avoid any sort of teenage years issues.

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Nope.

Your wording is the problem.


Nah, it's your reasoning that is. You should have been spanked more apparently.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 8/15/18 at 1:06 pm to
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So why spank them at these ages? If they cannot "reason", then they cannot understand that they're being "hurt" for doing something that they should not have done.


Jesus Christ Not jumping down this rabbit hole
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63786 posts
Posted on 8/15/18 at 1:06 pm to
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Wrong.


No.
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
34210 posts
Posted on 8/15/18 at 1:07 pm to
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So why spank them at these ages? If they cannot "reason", then they cannot understand that they're being "hurt" for doing something that they should not have done.

The child can reason at that age. They cannot be reasoned with. They don't have the language skills to be instructed at length about actions and consequences.
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Spanking then is just an expression of anger by the parent.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 8/15/18 at 1:07 pm to
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Right, because if she had been spanked at four years old, that would avoid any sort of teenage years issues.


Who said anything about avoiding issues?

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Nah, it's your reasoning that is. 


Nope.

I told you that your kids would grow up to be assholes. Thanks for confirming.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 8/15/18 at 1:07 pm to
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I agree that his age range is pretty exaggerated, but there is definitely an age where you cannot reason with children.


5 or so years old is when logic and reasoning really starts to develop in a child, hence that age range. Before then, talking it out is unlikely to work with all behaviors.
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