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re: Who here is against St George?
Posted on 2/11/14 at 9:38 am to AndyCBR
Posted on 2/11/14 at 9:38 am to AndyCBR
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The beauty of the St. George initiative is only the people in the area get to vote on it. Let the people vote how they wish to be governed.
Not if the 'Better Together' schmucks get their way. I've already read multiple comments on articles saying they want to have the city proper vote as well.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 9:44 am to dragginass
quote:Then why does Bodi White keep saying he doesn't think he has the votes in the legislature to do it even if a new city is formed? Are you calling him a liar?
Once incorporated, the school district formation should be easy.
FWIW, because he knows he doesn't have the votes, he is attempting to challenge the constitutional amendment method of forming a new school district by re-interpreting the part of the constitution which provides for creating new school districts. He's got zero chance of being successful doing that.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 9:47 am to Zantrix
quote:
Not if the 'Better Together' schmucks get their way. I've already read multiple comments on articles saying they want to have the city proper vote as well.
They have no say in the matter since it's only the residents of the proposed area who get to vote. I'm moving out to Ascension for schools so I'm out of the voting however I find it odd that their signs say "no to the breakaway" when the St. George area isn't part of the city of Baton Rouge. I guess they're referring to the breakaway dollars.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 9:55 am to dgtiger3
St George better start building their Berlinesque wall now complete with guard towers, 50 cal. Machine gun nests, moats and alligators, and check points if they hope to stave off the mass influx of people from BR that will be making their way there to get in the school district. And you're NOT going to stop section 8 and tax credit. It's already there.
The Baby Boomers Last Stand.....
This whole area is stuck on dumb.
You will do nothing but create a big nasty infrastructure mess in BR, even lower population density and more crime infestation to boot, that without a giant wall to keep yourself isolated WILL be bleeding over as it always does. This has all the makings of making Baton Rouge a Welfare city on life support. In other words, your next door neighbor is going to be a trailer park ghetto. Get it?
The same people are doing the same dumb things thinking they can run from this, and evacuating whole areas in the process, but alas, I'm sure this will also be called growth rather than relocation.
I have absolutely ZERO faith in you St. George people, because the only pattern you demonstrate is a pattern of not understanding your very own assets, your community, and a consistent display of retardation in everything from zoning to street layout, to everything that is currently Baton Rouge, because quite simply put, You are the ones who helped create the mess in the first place.
Guess what.... Like everything else, this is going to be a huge failure, because it's founded in stupid nonsense, and divides a city that needs to get its head out of its arse.
Let me demonstrate... In other areas of the country, the trend is to move back to your urban areas, and reclaim what others threw away, but not here. It's the complete opposite, AS USUAL. Pulling up the arse end of things and going in reverse. Hell surprise..
The Baby Boomers Last Stand.....
This whole area is stuck on dumb.
You will do nothing but create a big nasty infrastructure mess in BR, even lower population density and more crime infestation to boot, that without a giant wall to keep yourself isolated WILL be bleeding over as it always does. This has all the makings of making Baton Rouge a Welfare city on life support. In other words, your next door neighbor is going to be a trailer park ghetto. Get it?
The same people are doing the same dumb things thinking they can run from this, and evacuating whole areas in the process, but alas, I'm sure this will also be called growth rather than relocation.
I have absolutely ZERO faith in you St. George people, because the only pattern you demonstrate is a pattern of not understanding your very own assets, your community, and a consistent display of retardation in everything from zoning to street layout, to everything that is currently Baton Rouge, because quite simply put, You are the ones who helped create the mess in the first place.
Guess what.... Like everything else, this is going to be a huge failure, because it's founded in stupid nonsense, and divides a city that needs to get its head out of its arse.
Let me demonstrate... In other areas of the country, the trend is to move back to your urban areas, and reclaim what others threw away, but not here. It's the complete opposite, AS USUAL. Pulling up the arse end of things and going in reverse. Hell surprise..
This post was edited on 2/11/14 at 10:08 am
Posted on 2/11/14 at 9:58 am to Mike da Tigah
quote:huge wall plus John Snow to guard it...problem solved
You will do nothing but create a big nasty infrastructure mess in BR, even lower population density and more crime infestation to boot, that without a giant wall to keep yourself isolated WILL be bleeding over as it always does.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 9:59 am to BeerMoney
quote:It's really not that difficult to understand what is meant by 'breakaway.'
I find it odd that their signs say "no to the breakaway" when the St. George area isn't part of the city of Baton Rouge.
The 'breakaway' refers to removing SG from the consolidated form of city parish government for unincorporated areas of the parish that has been in place for many decades.
I don't understand why SG proponents keep harping on the semantics of what they are attempting to do as if it makes a difference. It's like they are trying to obscure the results of forming a new city which will be larger in area than Baton Rouge.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 10:00 am to Ford Frenzy
quote:
do you think it won't pass?
No. BR proper is still larger than the entire unincorporated and other municipal areas of the Parish.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 10:01 am to BeerMoney
I think a competitive independent school district in that area would help reduce the flow of middle class residents to the outlying parishes and increase property while making the Capitol region more attractive for businesses. Good public schools will do more to fight sprawl than almost anything else could.
I'd like to see that occur without incorporation.....but overall, I support because I don't want to see the tax base hollow out like it has in Detroit or like it will happen in Jackson, MS. I think Baton Rouge will be fine regardless of what happens so long as they don't abandon the metro council government within EBR, which has served the city very well. The people that seem to be talking about that kind of change are opponents of St George who are trying to gain political clout within the city. I don't think they have the influence to make that happen.
There is a lot of emotional reactions from opponents of St George and a lot of bad information and dishonesty from both sides- especially from opponents on the council. I'd like to see it come to a vote and the people make logical decisions on their future that are not based on a knee jerk, emotional reaction to the prospect of incorporation.
I'd like to see that occur without incorporation.....but overall, I support because I don't want to see the tax base hollow out like it has in Detroit or like it will happen in Jackson, MS. I think Baton Rouge will be fine regardless of what happens so long as they don't abandon the metro council government within EBR, which has served the city very well. The people that seem to be talking about that kind of change are opponents of St George who are trying to gain political clout within the city. I don't think they have the influence to make that happen.
There is a lot of emotional reactions from opponents of St George and a lot of bad information and dishonesty from both sides- especially from opponents on the council. I'd like to see it come to a vote and the people make logical decisions on their future that are not based on a knee jerk, emotional reaction to the prospect of incorporation.
This post was edited on 2/11/14 at 10:23 am
Posted on 2/11/14 at 10:10 am to Golfer
What will happen to the many pockets of total shite that already exist in the St G area if it passes?
Posted on 2/11/14 at 10:12 am to Mike da Tigah
quote:Well that was dramatic.
Mike da Tigah
Posted on 2/11/14 at 10:13 am to Skillet
quote:It's only rich white kids in St George. I read it on CNN Money.
hat will happen to the many pockets of total shite that already exist in the St G area if it passes?
Posted on 2/11/14 at 10:17 am to LSUAfro
Lots of white shite in the area across the street from the fire station on G O'neal.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 10:19 am to Mike da Tigah
I think the rfp is out for the wall. There is some argument whether to use local alligators or to import crocodiles. I think the idea of solar panels to power the electrified fences may not work.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 10:20 am to LSURussian
quote:
Then why does Bodi White keep saying he doesn't think he has the votes in the legislature to do it even if a new city is formed? Are you calling him a liar?
The 2/3 vote of legislature may or may not be difficult to get, but other legal avenues requiring just a simple majority are available. Again, once incorporated the city of st.George will carry a much bigger stick....
Posted on 2/11/14 at 10:21 am to LT
quote:
I think the idea of solar panels to power the electrified fences may not work.
Solar? Sounds like communism to me.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 10:26 am to dewster
Ultimately, even if st.George were to fail, the solution for me is easy. Like many other young families, I will move to another parish with viable public education.
Let the flood of people to ascension and Livingston continue, and eventually BR will be nothing but LSU and ghettos.
Let the flood of people to ascension and Livingston continue, and eventually BR will be nothing but LSU and ghettos.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 10:27 am to dragginass
IMO, Baton Rouge should consider annexing the Town Center area if they are worried that a new city of St George may slow the flow of sales tax dollars to the parish coffers. That area is a big revenue generator and it is not in the proposed city of St George.
The choice to me seems to be a slowly decaying East Baton Rouge tax base for the city of Baton Rouge to suck dry or a parish that may have a chance of retaining the middle class tax base needed for supporting the needs of 450,000 people. In the long run, it would be better for LSU and Baton Rouge if another decent school district was created in East Baton Rouge IMO.
The choice to me seems to be a slowly decaying East Baton Rouge tax base for the city of Baton Rouge to suck dry or a parish that may have a chance of retaining the middle class tax base needed for supporting the needs of 450,000 people. In the long run, it would be better for LSU and Baton Rouge if another decent school district was created in East Baton Rouge IMO.
This post was edited on 2/11/14 at 10:34 am
Posted on 2/11/14 at 10:29 am to Mike da Tigah
Can I deduce from that rant that all things held constant, the only thing keeping incorporated BR from becoming a "trailer park" right now is somehow the fact that St George doesn't exist as of yet? That tells me more money exits St George than enters and vice versa for incorporated BR.
This post was edited on 2/11/14 at 10:33 am
Posted on 2/11/14 at 10:31 am to RyseofRome
St. George is a fundamentally racist initiative. Institutional racism is real.
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Posted on 2/11/14 at 10:31 am to Mike da Tigah
quote:
Solar? Sounds like communism to me.
Something about tax crediks.
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