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re: Who has it harder: Black kid from poor family or a white kid?

Posted on 7/21/18 at 3:55 pm to
Posted by liz18lsu
Naples, FL
Member since Feb 2009
17895 posts
Posted on 7/21/18 at 3:55 pm to
In a vacuum, the white kid has a better shot, but the black child is given more opportunities.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 7/21/18 at 3:57 pm to
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Too many variables to answer.



Lots of things matter more than race, I get that, but you'll never convince me it's better to be black if you're betting on the success of the typical kid. They've got more headwinds than a white kid, on the whole. It's systemic.
Posted by FightinTiga
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Posted on 7/21/18 at 3:57 pm to
Bingo
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108118 posts
Posted on 7/21/18 at 3:57 pm to
But according to the OPs theory, everything is controlled to be the exact same except skin color. All variables are equal


In that scenario, the black kid has a better shot


If you tell me to pick a white kid or black kid born in poverty where I do not know all variables, I will pick the white kid
This post was edited on 7/21/18 at 3:58 pm
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91300 posts
Posted on 7/21/18 at 3:59 pm to
The OP is actually a mess. It's a poor black kid vs a white kid, which is dumb.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
119998 posts
Posted on 7/21/18 at 4:00 pm to
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The poor black kid in a white neighborhood is most likely popular due to his athletic skills.



Dave Chappelle grew up in a white neighborhood and he has 0 athletic ability.
Posted by liz18lsu
Naples, FL
Member since Feb 2009
17895 posts
Posted on 7/21/18 at 4:03 pm to
I am a classist and will never pick a poor ignorant kid over a hard wordworker with some middle class background. I DGAF about race.
Posted by FightinTiga
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Posted on 7/21/18 at 4:03 pm to
The perception of no opportunities for blacks just isn’t factual anymore,quite the opposite
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
100226 posts
Posted on 7/21/18 at 4:17 pm to
Peer pressure and being the butt of jokes will make the white kid more motivated to do better in life. I know this because I'm a white guy who didn't come from much and got made fun of but now I make more money than those who thought they were better than me.

Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91300 posts
Posted on 7/21/18 at 4:17 pm to
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The perception of no opportunities for blacks just isn’t factual anymore,quite the opposite


I don't think it's no opportunities at all, I think it's simply a worse gig on the whole.

I work for a company that has a pretty big emphasis on hiring women and minorities. The reason is because we are like 95% white males.

Why is that? It's not racism, it's just that we hire and recruit who we know, and that's usually another white male.

It's bettwe for a black kid now than it's ever been, and I don't know if you can fix the headwinds with anything other than time, but it's still behind being a white kid.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53033 posts
Posted on 7/21/18 at 4:20 pm to
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Why is that? It's not racism, it's just that we hire and recruit who we know, and that's usually another white male. 

It's because y'all hire the most qualified candidates that are easy to find
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91300 posts
Posted on 7/21/18 at 4:22 pm to
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It's because y'all hire the most qualified candidates that are easy to find


We don't even look past our friends either.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53033 posts
Posted on 7/21/18 at 4:30 pm to
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We don't even look past our friends either

I have hiring input on my team. We have 3 black guys out of 14 currently in a majority black city. I recommended hiring 2 of them but it wasn't for diversity's sake. It was because they were qualified and seemed like a good fit.

If we have an opening next week, I'll get 50 resumes and 45 of them will be white males.
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
28166 posts
Posted on 7/21/18 at 4:56 pm to
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Yea, the white kid who makes a 33 on his ACT won't get a single scholarship to any school


When you're white you graduate salutatorian, make a 34 on your ACT, you get a partial scholly to Wake Forest and a full ride to BAMA.

When you're black, you graduate 20th, make a 29 on the ACT, and get a full ride to Wake Forest.

Thats not speculation, thats fact
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
48766 posts
Posted on 7/21/18 at 6:02 pm to
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I think you'd have to be a bit naive to think there is absolutely no discrimination against blacks.


I agree

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On the other hand, being black and poor go hand in hand.


That is bullshite and thinking like that is exactly what is holding some black people back.

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Whereas a poor white kid around his peers is going to be a bit of an outsider.


Also, complete bullshite

Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14670 posts
Posted on 7/21/18 at 6:17 pm to
The real answer is middle to upper middle class white kid. You get no help because of your race, and you get no help because you aren’t poor. Your family can’t pay for college, and you get diddly for financial assistance or grants. The only way you get an education is to go a-hole deep in debt.

Take it from me. 2 sons in college, both with a 30+ ACT. 1 at UCA, 1 at UA.
Posted by TOSOV
Member since Jan 2016
8922 posts
Posted on 7/21/18 at 9:31 pm to
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Black by a long shot, even if s/he had a 4.0 and graduated from harvard, you know baws down south won't hire them. Its unfortunate but thats southern backwards thinking. If black/minorities were given a fair chance at jobs in this country then we would not be having this conversation


My last boss was a black guy who graduated from harvard. Soooooooo yeah...if you dont act/speak like a porch monkey, and dress/speak respectfully you have a chance.
Posted by The Sockster
Grayslake, Illinois
Member since Oct 2006
1030 posts
Posted on 7/21/18 at 9:47 pm to
The dumber one will have it harder.
Posted by luke18
ATL
Member since Oct 2007
385 posts
Posted on 7/21/18 at 9:50 pm to
Definitely a white kid. Reverse racism, affirmative action, black lives matter—white kids are being persecuted on the daily. Long live the white brother! Also, heil hitler
This post was edited on 7/21/18 at 9:55 pm
Posted by OKellsBells
USA
Member since Dec 2016
5264 posts
Posted on 7/21/18 at 10:01 pm to
Black child with a white mother and hispanic siblings raised in an asian suburb of San Fransisco by a group of Jewish gypsies...in 1918.

Today, no particular group of citizens in America has it that bad. I don’t feel sorry for anyone these days.
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