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re: Whites at top colleges would go from 66% to 75% if SAT only admission criteria

Posted on 6/24/19 at 8:34 pm to
Posted by FightinTiga
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Posted on 6/24/19 at 8:34 pm to
It’s racist for white people to try harder to succeed
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 6/24/19 at 8:39 pm to
I agree SAT’s are not the only way to judge the quality of a student. But once you start going away from them, it’s all subjective and both conscious and unconscious biases come into the process
This post was edited on 6/24/19 at 8:40 pm
Posted by slackster
Houston
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Posted on 6/24/19 at 8:46 pm to
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How simple minded. Unless your kid is the top 0.0005%, they will always be a “fringe student.” If they’re not a fringe student at LSU, they will be at Vanderbilt or UVA or Stanford or MIT or Yale or Harvard.


The study looked at the top 200 most selective schools. It wasn't just an Ivy thing.

And it's not simple minded. Not a soul at Harvard is there because of their test scores alone. Their profiles are insane. It's comical that people think schools at that level are letting in unqualified students.
Posted by FLBooGoTigs1
Nocatee, FL.
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 6/24/19 at 8:49 pm to
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And for decades those policies helped whites.


Typical liberal response yes it was wrong when whites were doing it those racist POS but when minorities use it now they are Ok to do it even though it is discrimination. Typical hypocrite liberals lol.
Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 6/24/19 at 8:51 pm to
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? More like a tool of the oppressing white patriarchy. I'd rather have a holistic admissions process that focused on the struggles of the applicant - including but not limited to single parent households, felony convictions, likelihood to vote Democrat, etc.


Just so you know, colleges are implementing an adversity score.

So check your privilege whitey
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
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Posted on 6/24/19 at 8:55 pm to
Occidentals
Posted by FLBooGoTigs1
Nocatee, FL.
Member since Jan 2008
59271 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 8:59 pm to
You would have been good just to respond but go ahead validate everything I just said about a liberal with your check your privelge whitey comment.
Posted by CptRusty
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Posted on 6/24/19 at 8:59 pm to
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Being able to work and learn with qualified applicants


Qualified according to what standard, if not GPA and standardized test scores?
Posted by FightnBobLafollette
Member since Oct 2017
12204 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 9:02 pm to
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I agree SAT’s are not the only way to judge the quality of a student. But once you start going away from the


Good.
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it’s all subjective and both conscious and unconscious biases come into the process


Admission’s is fairly transparent. And they work as a team and discuss applicants.

Who is more impressive. A 4.0 gpa and 1500 SAT or 3.8, 1400 SAT, Eagle Scout, played a varsity sport, worked a job, and volunteered.
Posted by FightnBobLafollette
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 6/24/19 at 9:04 pm to
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Typical liberal response


Naw.
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it was wrong when whites were doing it those racist POS


Never invoked racism. You are melting.
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it is discrimination.


Everyone discriminated. That is the point of admissions. Retard.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 6/24/19 at 9:06 pm to
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The study looked at the top 200 most selective schools. It wasn't just an Ivy thing.


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It's comical that people think schools at that level are letting in unqualified students.


The study would include Harvard, no? These two statements are contradictory, unless of course you think changing the qualifications based on race, gender, or nationality is acceptable.
This post was edited on 6/24/19 at 9:07 pm
Posted by FLBooGoTigs1
Nocatee, FL.
Member since Jan 2008
59271 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 9:07 pm to
Exactly I have no problem if the candidate has all the qualifications that pertain to the job but to give the job to less qualified person in the name of diversity is just stupid. Trust me I see it so much now in corporate America but I guess I am just that Racist POS because I want someone who will get the job done right. Fwiw if that job gets done by a QUALIFIED woman or man of color, gay, Muslim, etc I don't care.
Posted by slackster
Houston
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91838 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 9:08 pm to
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Qualified according to what standard, if not GPA and standardized test scores?


Qualified using SAT, sure, but only up to a certain level. You need to be smart to attend, but as long as you're X intelligent, you're entire profile should be considered.

I'm a huge proponent of SAT/ACT scores as they're the best single data point IMO, but they're all part of the package.
This post was edited on 6/24/19 at 9:21 pm
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
66978 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 9:09 pm to
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The study would include Harvard, no? These two statements are contradictory, unless of course you think changing the qualifications based on race, gender, or nationality is acceptable.


Harvard lets people in simply based on wokeness. Just look at David Hogg who couldn’t even get into directional schools in Florida before he survived Parkland sitting on his couch at home.
This post was edited on 6/24/19 at 9:12 pm
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 6/24/19 at 9:10 pm to
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Admission’s

English be damned.
Posted by Methuselah
On da Riva
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Posted on 6/24/19 at 9:11 pm to
I would have thought Asians would go up.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 9:15 pm to
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The study would include Harvard, no?


Harvard's 25th percentile is 1460. Those students are still plenty qualified.
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These two statements are contradictory, unless of course you think changing the qualifications based on race, gender, or nationality is acceptable.


I think building a class that is a reasonable representation of the culture and people you'll encounter post-grad makes for the best students on the whole. I don't believe in diversity for the sake of diversity, but even at 66%, white students are sampled at these colleges. Their enemy in admissions are other white students, not minorities.
This post was edited on 6/24/19 at 9:34 pm
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22971 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 9:16 pm to
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You needs to be smart to attend, but as long as you're X intelligent, you're entire profile should be considered.


What if I told that you X changes depending on your gender and race?
Posted by CptRusty
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Posted on 6/24/19 at 9:17 pm to
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you're entire profile should be considered.


What part of the "profile" should elevate a student with low scores over a kid with higher scores?

How much volunteer work adds 1 point to my GPA, or 10 points to my ACT?
Posted by FLBooGoTigs1
Nocatee, FL.
Member since Jan 2008
59271 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 9:18 pm to
Lol. I ain't melting libtard. I called you out so your response is i am melting. I have seen this play out at my job over the last 5 years. Hire the 2 black women, 2 white women, the Mexican and after 2 years they leave for greener pastures. Two of my best manager's at my job of 20 years have been women and you know why that is? They knew their shite and lead by example. Read my other post I don't care what color, religion, sexual preference but if you are gonna work with me or for me you better know your job. Unfortunately the last 5 years with these new candidates they just can't meet the company's goals.
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