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re: Whites at top colleges would go from 66% to 75% if SAT only admission criteria
Posted on 6/24/19 at 9:40 pm to CptRusty
Posted on 6/24/19 at 9:40 pm to CptRusty
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this discussion is meant to be confined to private universities then that changes things, ot
Edit: reread. I was wrong.
This post was edited on 6/24/19 at 9:52 pm
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Posted on 6/24/19 at 9:40 pm to slackster
quote:That changes based on both race and sex, as we have seen in regards to Harvard for example.
Unqualified based on a minimum intelligence required to succeed at the chosen institution.
Posted on 6/24/19 at 9:41 pm to CptRusty
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Your point is irrelevant though, private industry =/= public universities.
If this discussion is meant to be confined to private universities then that changes things, otherwise my tax dollars mean I get to protest discrimination in admissions.
A) it's public and private.
B) it's tough to play the desfrimination card when 55% of grads are white, yet 66% are getting into these 200 colleges. I know what you mean, but white students are already in the plus under current admissions.
Posted on 6/24/19 at 9:43 pm to slackster
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I know what you mean, but white students are already in the plus under current admissions.
Tell it to the kids who were skipped over because their classmate checked a different box on the ol' melanin scale.
Posted on 6/24/19 at 9:44 pm to slackster
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55% of grads are white,
Where’d you get that from?
Posted on 6/24/19 at 9:46 pm to Scruffy
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That changes based on both race and sex, as we have seen in regards to Harvard for example.
Does it though? Seriously, are students with legitimately poor scores getting into Harvard at any significant clip? Minus David Hogg, of course.
I mean, 1460 as your 25th percentile is no joke. I can't imagine they're letting 1100s through the screening.
Posted on 6/24/19 at 9:47 pm to slackster
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Being able to work and learn with qualified applicants from various backgrounds is important.
Why is this supposed to be true?
Posted on 6/24/19 at 9:48 pm to UpToPar
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Where’d you get that from?
Various sources put K-12 demographics at 50-55% white. Went with the highest I found.
Posted on 6/24/19 at 9:50 pm to FightnBobLafollette
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They won't get it
Lol. We get it there are more things than just test scores or credentials when getting accepted to college or getting a job. Just don't omit the elephant in the room that you referenced earlier that race or gender doesn't play a part when the candidates are chosen. I get the point of diversity it makes the company or school better if done correctly but when the selection leaves the more qualified candidates out and allows others in based on race, religion, sexual preference then it's wrong. I am white and male so that makes me a white supremist now right
Posted on 6/24/19 at 9:52 pm to 1BIGTigerFan
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Why is this supposed to be true?
Why wouldn't it be? Experience working with people from multiple backgrounds is absolutely a plus in the real world.
Posted on 6/24/19 at 9:53 pm to CptRusty
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Tell it to the kids who were skipped over because their classmate checked a different box on the ol' melanin scale.
I bet they feel better knowing they got bumped by legacy students or rich parents making donations.
Posted on 6/24/19 at 9:53 pm to slackster
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Various sources put K-12 demographics at 50-55% whit
Maybe that’s true, but I have a very difficult time believing this.
Posted on 6/24/19 at 9:54 pm to FLBooGoTigs1
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We get it there are more things than just test scores or credentials when getting accepted to college or getting a job. Just don't omit the elephant in the room
So, you are ok with those things but not ok w other things.
Lol
Posted on 6/24/19 at 9:56 pm to slackster
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Experience working with people from multiple backgrounds is absolutely a plus in the real world.
Depends what you're doing.
Writing "news" articles for buzzfeed? Yea probably.
Designing an offshore production platform? frick your diversity, give me smart people, whatever color they are even if every one of them is lily white.
Posted on 6/24/19 at 9:58 pm to FightnBobLafollette
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I bet they feel better knowing they got bumped by legacy students or rich parents making donations.
Yes tard, discrimination is wrong regardless of the form or outcome. Try to keep up.
Posted on 6/24/19 at 9:59 pm to slackster
quote:Well, that is the basis of the lawsuit.
Does it though?
quote:But that isn’t the issue.
Seriously, are students with legitimately poor scores getting into Harvard at any significant clip?
The issue is that, for example, Asians require a minimum of 1370 for a letter, while Whites require a minimum of a 1310.
The scores differ again for African-Americans.
Are they all high scores? Sure.
Are academic requirements different for different races? Apparently so.
Posted on 6/24/19 at 10:02 pm to FightnBobLafollette
I am Ok with the right person getting accepted or hired based on what the university or job qualifications require. Unfortunately over the last 5 to 10 years a more diverse workforce or university may not be better off. Now you throw in a qualified diverse workforce or university then we maybe talking. I know Rome wasn't built in a day maybe it will take time so we shall see. I am open to that.
Posted on 6/24/19 at 10:02 pm to UpToPar
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Maybe that’s true, but I have a very difficult time believing this.
Posted on 6/24/19 at 10:03 pm to Dandy Lion
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Dandy lyin be damned.
FIFY
Posted on 6/24/19 at 10:05 pm to Scruffy
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The issue is that, for example, Asians require a minimum of 1370 for a letter, while Whites require a minimum of a 1310.
The scores differ again for African-Americans.
Are they all high scores? Sure.
I disagree with that approach. If a 1300 is what is needed to succeed, that should be the case across the board.
I don't have a problem with building your class once everyone meets the minimum - hell, that's how it typically works in the real world. I do have a problem with raising/lowering the minimum based on race.
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