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re: White House 2026 budget plan includes proposal to phase out funding for NASA rocket
Posted on 5/3/25 at 11:35 am to LegendInMyMind
Posted on 5/3/25 at 11:35 am to LegendInMyMind
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It is still a money issue. The lion's share of the private sector funding for most space projects comes from NASA/the Fed.
IDK what the #s show, but the way SpaceX develops their rockets is fundamentally different and more efficient than NASA/Boeing.
FTR, SpaceX has made some good engineering decisions and their SE approach allows them to navigate through issues and design changes more rapidly than legacy companies.
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Posted on 5/3/25 at 11:43 am to crewdepoo
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Wonder who will benefit from this?
The American people. Why?
Posted on 5/3/25 at 12:02 pm to StrongSafety
quote:When taxes paid in actually had tangible and successful outcomes.
Our country grew to its heights because we poured in to our development with higher taxes.
We now live in a society where we pay taxes for shite that should result in positive outcomes with a year or two, but instead results in 5 miles of highway that takes 15 years or 0.5 mile of high speed rail costing billions and going nowhere.
You guys are so bought in to this idea that we still get tangible benefits from taxation.
It’s all bullshite. We get minimal return on investment.
You guys are still living in the 1930s.
It took one year to build the Empire State Building.
It will, at best, take 4 years to rebuild the Francis Scott key bridge,
We have better tech, but it is substantially worse.
This post was edited on 5/3/25 at 12:04 pm
Posted on 5/3/25 at 12:05 pm to AlwysATgr
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IDK what the #s show, but the way SpaceX develops their rockets is fundamentally different and more efficient than NASA/Boeing.
I agree with that, and SpaceX isn't by any means the only private sector company doing great contract work for NASA.
My issue is with people who say, "Defund NASA and let the private sector do the work." They seem to have no idea how much NASA now funds private sector space exploration work and how many private sector companies are reliant upon NASA contracts.
I'm not talking about in this thread, but other threads here and on the PT have shown a serious lack of understanding in this regard. The private sector is already doing the majority of the work.
Posted on 5/3/25 at 12:08 pm to Scruffy
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You guys are so bought in to this idea that we still get tangible benefits from taxation.
The way I like to put it is that we have more people in this country than at any other time in history, and we have a government taking in more tax dollars than at any other point in history, yet that government seems to be getting less done than at any other point in our country's history.
You can extrapolate that out to include state and local governments as well.
Posted on 5/3/25 at 12:29 pm to LegendInMyMind
Not like the private sector is doing that much better.
SpaceX has taken multiple billions from the government for their moon program, are 3 years behind schedule and still haven't made it to orbit yet when the plan was to have Starship land on the moon last year.
SpaceX has taken multiple billions from the government for their moon program, are 3 years behind schedule and still haven't made it to orbit yet when the plan was to have Starship land on the moon last year.
Posted on 5/3/25 at 1:01 pm to tigerfan88
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People who want to cut funding to everything that doesn’t have an obvious super tangible benefit as its stated goal have forgotten (or never realized) how so many technological and scientific innovations and discoveries are made.
Exactly. Every single major technological innovation over the last 100 years has come out of either the military or nasa. AI being the first one not directly funded by the US Government
Posted on 5/3/25 at 1:25 pm to LegendInMyMind
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It is still a money issue. The lion's share of the private sector funding for most space projects comes from NASA/the Fed.
This becomes an argument on if we should go to space at all. I think we should, and yes that's going to involve government funding at some level, at least until it's viable for sell to consumers.
If we want to go to space, we should choose the "cheaper" option. That is the private sector, not NASA.
Posted on 5/3/25 at 3:50 pm to Roll Tide Ravens
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I want to see us return to the Moon, but NASA has to be more efficient if they’re going to do it. It can’t be an endless money pit.
This. The Artemis program is 20 years old now, and is still plodding at a snail's pace. It's ridiculous.
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