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re: Which was worse for Star Wars: Jar Jar Binks or midiclorians?

Posted on 12/27/16 at 12:19 am to
Posted by bmy
Nashville
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Posted on 12/27/16 at 12:19 am to
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I'm a hard sci-fi guy, any element of fantasy introduced into a sci-fi book instantly turns me off, no magic or the like. I hate Star Wars and especially hate seeing it lumped into sci-fi by the media who knows nothing of real sci-fi, Star Wars is a fantasy book set in space. That said, the force should have remained fantasy. Trying to explain it via "plausible" methods kills the mystery behind it and degrades the story imo.



pretty sure it being set in space makes it science fiction
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 12/27/16 at 12:26 am to
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pretty sure it being set in space makes it science fiction



Not at all, that's just the setting. Sci-fi doesn't equal space.
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
26806 posts
Posted on 12/27/16 at 12:36 am to
Star Wars is a fantasy....purely because of "the force." Without that piece, it would be sci-fi and not fantasy.

However, Star Wars is amazing and the inclusion of the reason behind the force in more detail does not detract from the plot or the movie...it adds to it. Jar Jar is an annoying POS that glues together episode one, but could have been done with a less shithead character.

PS - Episode VII was the shite
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
59342 posts
Posted on 12/27/16 at 12:56 am to
You are a self proclaimed sci fi nerd that hates Star Wars? Yet you want our opinions of fig binks or mitochlorians? Bro check yourself before you wreck yo self
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
31591 posts
Posted on 12/27/16 at 1:03 am to
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You are a self proclaimed sci fi nerd that hates Star Wars?



I think you'll find the majority of "sci-fi nerds" dislike Star Wars.
Posted by Bullfrog
Running Through the Wet Grass
Member since Jul 2010
61777 posts
Posted on 12/27/16 at 3:02 am to
Any show set in space that is terrifyingly loud with engine, laser and explosion noise is Fantasy.
Posted by dbbuilder79
Overton NV
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 12/27/16 at 6:20 am to
So I have to ask.

What is considered "good sci-fi"?

B/c by your way of thinking, star trek originally was pure fantasy. Lasers and telecoms the size of compacts were the things of dreams.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
31591 posts
Posted on 12/27/16 at 7:14 am to
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B/c by your way of thinking, star trek originally was pure fantasy. Lasers and telecoms the size of compacts were the things of dreams.



Those were both plausible things thus not fantasy. For Star Trek when I think fantasy the character Q comes to mind.

God sci-fi, there's plenty (need to start its own thread on it). I'm currently reading James S.A. Corey's latest Expanse book which is great. Alastair Reynolds. John Scalzi. Allen Steele. Stephen Baxter. Arthur C Clark. Larry Niven/Jerry Pournelle. Andy Weir (The Martian). Etc...
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