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re: which MJ is more famous/influential, Michael Jordan or Michael Jackson?

Posted on 1/22/14 at 6:12 pm to
Posted by northshorebamaman
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Posted on 1/22/14 at 6:12 pm to
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He went to a level that only ELVIS or the Beatles could touch


I wasn't around for Elvis or the Beatles, but he was definitely the most famous in my lifetime.
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 1/22/14 at 6:24 pm to
it would be michael jackson, but diddling boys probably erased a lot of his popularity... the worst jordan ever did was go on a secret suspension for gambling
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
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Posted on 1/22/14 at 6:31 pm to
michael jordan is the greatest black man that ever lived.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 1/22/14 at 6:33 pm to
It's without question Jackson. Worldwide, he's the most influential musician of all time, even over the Beatles. I was on the plains of Mongolia when he died, and even I heard of it within the hour of when his death was announced.
Posted by TigerTValum
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 1/22/14 at 6:34 pm to
Jackson, then Jordan in a far second. Jordan never had the level of fame Jackson did. Also, Michael could never have a normal life due to his popularity. Jordan never had to go out in costume in fear a group of people would rip his body to shreds. I'm a huge Michael Jackson fan and was hit hard when he died.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 1/22/14 at 6:35 pm to
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Jackson... If you're talking about the pedofile community. Otherwise Jordan.


Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 1/22/14 at 6:36 pm to
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Jordan was more influential though


Please make a rational argument. Ask anyone in any other country but the US and it should be an instant answer of Jackson.
Posted by 632627
LA
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Posted on 1/22/14 at 6:36 pm to
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Globally it's Jackson and I don't think it's close


and even in the united states michael jackson is probably bigger than jordan.
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 1/22/14 at 6:37 pm to
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Jackson. Worldwide, he's the most influential musician of all time
fame does not equal influence
This post was edited on 1/22/14 at 6:39 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 1/22/14 at 6:40 pm to
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In your globe maybe, not the rest of the world. There are soccer players with much more name recognition than Jordan, who plays a game not nearly as popular globally as soccer.


Yeah, I'd say that Beckham is more famous and beloved than Jordan, and even he pails in comparison to the global influence of Jackson.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
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Posted on 1/22/14 at 6:45 pm to
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and even in the united states michael jackson is probably bigger than jordan.

Yes. My grandparents and parents owned Thriller, everyone I knew did. Lots of people don't care about basketball.
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 1/22/14 at 6:47 pm to
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fame does not equal influence
Fame or influence, Jackson wins.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 1/22/14 at 6:50 pm to
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Yes. My grandparents and parents owned Thriller, everyone I knew did. Lots of people don't care about basketball.


Plus I don't think half the globe has seen a Michael Jordan game. I'd venture to say that at least 90% have heard a Michael Jackson song, and multiple times at that.
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 1/22/14 at 6:54 pm to
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michael jordan is the greatest black man that ever lived.





Posted by WhoDats10
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Posted on 1/22/14 at 6:59 pm to
what about Mozart or Beethoven?
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 1/22/14 at 7:02 pm to
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Jordan never had the level of fame Jackson did



maybe..


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Also, Michael could never have a normal life due to his popularity.


Could Jordan???



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Jordan never had to go out in costume in fear a group of people would rip his body to shreds.




I don't think it was THAT BAD for Jackson...



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I'm a huge Michael Jackson fan and was hit hard when he died.




I am a HUGE Jackson fan myself... But some of what you said is ridiculous.... Jackson brought a lot of FAME on himself.. Cause he wanted it.... Think about it...



Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 1/22/14 at 7:23 pm to
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OMLandshark


Is correct. There are kids in the slums of India trying to moon walk. They aren't playing basketball.
Posted by LSUPHILLY72
Member since Aug 2010
5377 posts
Posted on 1/22/14 at 7:42 pm to
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you do'nt agree, go watch the big concert Michael had in London in 2003 i think. Usher and Chris Rock and Timberlake where in it when they were young.
They show the crowd constantly. Grown men and women, i'm not talking about teenagers, grown arse men and women acting like 14 year old girls at a Bieber concert. That's not normal. The guy was worshiped by everyone for his entire life. He is and always will be the greatest entertainer ever.


It was Sept 7 and Sept 10th, 2011 @ Madison Square Garden. It was the 30th Anniversary Concert. I know because I went to both.

And it was Chris Tucker...not Chris Rock. Shaq went...Reggie Miller was there. It's on YouTube...pretty bad ads show. Check out Luther, 98 Degrees and Usher doing Man in the Mirror.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 1/22/14 at 7:43 pm to
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Is correct. There are kids in the slums of India trying to moon walk. They aren't playing basketball.


I bet those kids you're talking about try to emulate Kobe more than Michael these days.
Posted by TigerTValum
Member since Oct 2013
14 posts
Posted on 1/22/14 at 7:57 pm to
I think it was pretty bad for him, imo. I watched a program on him a good while back, and on it he said he wanted to go to the mall. He spent an hour with makeup people to form the prefect disguise. He could never go see a movie like a normal person, or go to the store. I have seen a good bit of celebrities in NOLA, and they walk around like everyday people. I think if Jackson would try that, it'd be a riot.

True, he did want fame, every celebrity who gets in the business wants that. But I could say that he just wanted to make music and didn't really care about the fame, when he was put in the business as a small child. He did have a talent for songwriting and entertaining the masses, but his the level of craziness people had for him was unreal.
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