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re: Which is worse? Smoking and drinking, or depression meds?

Posted on 3/23/26 at 12:22 pm to
Posted by justaniceguy
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 3/23/26 at 12:22 pm to
Always the meds
Posted by Hobie101
Member since May 2012
1074 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 12:24 pm to
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25mg of clonapin


Holy Cow!!!!

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Schedule 35 has been a Godsend for me


x2
Posted by UnitedFruitCompany
Bay Area
Member since Nov 2018
4081 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 12:33 pm to
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Surely you mean 2.5 mg


No, They started me at 5mg as needed. i "needed" 25mg after a couple of months. Built a comical tolerance to it. Not my finest hour.
Posted by UnitedFruitCompany
Bay Area
Member since Nov 2018
4081 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 12:34 pm to
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That is a ridiculously high dosage and no provider should be prescribing that.


They didn't. My own reckless abuse got me to that number. During covid people were handing shite out like candy, refills wise.
Posted by R11
Member since Aug 2017
5478 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 12:57 pm to
What’s wrong with smoked meats?
Posted by DonJuanDaMiles
San Diego, CA
Member since Feb 2014
1487 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 1:51 pm to
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No, They started me at 5mg as needed. i "needed" 25mg after a couple of months. Built a comical tolerance to it. Not my finest hour.


Damn man. Sorry that sounds pretty bad. Glad you’re on the other side of it.
Posted by BregmansWheelbarrow
Member since Mar 2020
3253 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 2:25 pm to
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Pot is actually horrendous for you if you do have mental health issues and yet i think flying away to never never land is an ok escape every now and then. Just not all the time.


This is the truth. People that have mental issues think this shite helps, it doesn't. In a lot of cases, it magnifies the problem leading to anxiety and stress and overthinking things that sober wouldn't enter your mind in the first place.
Posted by UnitedFruitCompany
Bay Area
Member since Nov 2018
4081 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 2:38 pm to
Schedule 35 is your friend. Discreet and they have many options for how you ingest it. I like the chocolate bars because the little squares make it super easy to manage the doses. You can microdose or full on hero dose. If you go down that road, try and be comfy and have a Sherpa. You will look at things differently in the morning in the best way possible.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
48820 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 3:14 pm to
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Schedule 35 is your friend
yes.

I take the 500mg capsules recreationally (tons of fun) and the 250mg capsules about twice a week. There are no side effects and my clarity, empathy and decision making is much much improved
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
20015 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 3:17 pm to
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Drinking in moderation is fine.


Drinking is for the weak
Posted by SundayFunday
Member since Sep 2011
10379 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 3:43 pm to
I mean, you know the answer to all of this.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39838 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 3:51 pm to
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Smoking and drinking, or depression meds?
Depends on amount. I think drinking and smoking in moderation - especially if among friends - is much healthier than SSRIs.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105265 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 3:55 pm to
Antidepressants have made my life tolerable. Not great, but tolerable.
Posted by LSUgrad83
Denham Springs
Member since Sep 2004
682 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 4:06 pm to
A starter dose of clonazepam Aka as Klonopin is about 0.5mg to 1mg a day. The largest dose it is available in is 1mg. Were you taking 25 pills a day? If no, then you are mistaken on your dose or which medication you were actually taking.
Posted by LSUgrad83
Denham Springs
Member since Sep 2004
682 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 4:12 pm to
Ok just looked it up. The max dose for Clonazepam aka Klonopin is 20mg a day. That is fricking insane. I don’t know how anyone could function. I was an oncology RN 29 years and I have seen massive amounts of opioids and benzodiazepines prescribed. I have never seen close to that amount prescribed. If you truly were prescribed 25mg a day, you found a practitioner that went off the reservation.
This post was edited on 3/23/26 at 4:19 pm
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
20064 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 4:24 pm to
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Alcohol is a fricking depressant

Not for me. It's a stimulant. Its awesome
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
66071 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 4:29 pm to
There are more people on anti depressants than most realize

1 in 8 people in the usa. I for one would never take that crap. Man up and suppress those feeling. Pile more crap until your forget about it
Posted by UnitedFruitCompany
Bay Area
Member since Nov 2018
4081 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 4:53 pm to
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Ok just looked it up. The max dose for Clonazepam aka Klonopin is 20mg a day. That is fricking insane. I don’t know how anyone could function. I was an oncology RN 29 years and I have seen massive amounts of opioids and benzodiazepines prescribed. I have never seen close to that amount prescribed.


It wasn’t. 5mg was the dose per day. But those were given to me 30 days a month. At first, one was enough. And it was really an every other day thing. First time I tried two it felt the same as one. Just slept a little longer. Then I “needed “ three. I only ever took them at night to wind down. Only vacillated between one and three based on how much I drank. First time I took three I passed out on a hammock outside at 1am. Forgot my dog was with me. Woke up and he was asleep under my hammock.

I was like ok well that worked out. The clonapin killed my hangovers too. Made me drink more. Which made me need to take more to kill the hangover. You know, so I could work remotely the next day. I was also squeezing in 30 mile bike rides every other day. The bike rides were the only thing that killed how much I drank that night. Then the weather turned and I couldn’t ride as much.


First time I did five felt the same as doing one. How I went from one to five took six months maybe? So you can imagine the surplus I built up script wise. Because every month I refilled it rain or shine. After month three I Told my doc I was taking two every night. He didn’t bat an eye and adjusted accordingly. At three he told m me to keep an eye on that.

I never went past five. Found a bit of a homeostasis there. Until I asked for more at that point to support the volume. That’s when I started getting phone calls. Needless to say, the people in my life had to step in. Was never allowed to see that Dr again.

Never had trouble kicking that either. Was really weird. But I kept drinking the same and just upped the pot consumption to make up for the clonapin deficit until I forgot I needed it. No withdrawals. No begging the hot moms in the neighborhood for their stashes.

Like I said, not my finest hour.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
85566 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 4:57 pm to
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smoked meats,


What’s wrong with smoked meats?
Posted by Bernie Bierman
Member since Mar 2019
2162 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 5:07 pm to
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