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re: Which is the most important branch of the military?
Posted on 5/30/15 at 9:59 am to StraightCashHomey21
Posted on 5/30/15 at 9:59 am to StraightCashHomey21
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tanks

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troops
a Navy Aircraft carrier can hold 7,000+ people on it.
a wasp class amphib can hold 5,000+
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This post was edited on 5/30/15 at 10:04 am
Posted on 5/30/15 at 10:01 am to hikingfan
Navy and it really isn't even close. Without the Navy we don't win the war in the Pacific and we don't cross the English Channel on D-Day.
Posted on 5/30/15 at 10:03 am to monsterballads
OMG for fricks sake
I knew you would post amphibious assault apc which is not a tank, whens the last time the Marines had to storm a beach.
yes while deployed around the world, that is not how are troops get to the desert
and the pic of helo's those are navy or marine helo's already on board
do you realize how fricking big the Army is and how much shite the AF moves for them.
I knew you would post amphibious assault apc which is not a tank, whens the last time the Marines had to storm a beach.
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a Navy Aircraft carrier can hold 7,000+ people on it.
a wasp class amphib can hold 5,000+
yes while deployed around the world, that is not how are troops get to the desert
and the pic of helo's those are navy or marine helo's already on board
do you realize how fricking big the Army is and how much shite the AF moves for them.
This post was edited on 5/30/15 at 10:05 am
Posted on 5/30/15 at 10:05 am to StraightCashHomey21
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I knew you would post amphibious assault apc which is not a tank
could put multiple tanks on an LCAC
Vehicles per Sortie
12 HMMWVs per sortie
4 LAVs per sortie
2 AAVs per sortie
1 M1A1 per sortie
4 M923 per sortie
2 M923 5-Ton Trucks,2 M198 Howitzers, and 2 HMMWVs per sortie
This post was edited on 5/30/15 at 10:07 am
Posted on 5/30/15 at 10:06 am to hikingfan
The aircraft changed the way wars were fought and air superiority has been a primary objective since WW2. Without air superiority there is no close air support, there is no medical, and there is no air craft carrier.
So I'd say up until about now the AF was at the top then army then Navy, but the Navy will be the military of the future just like it was in the early days.
So I'd say up until about now the AF was at the top then army then Navy, but the Navy will be the military of the future just like it was in the early days.
Posted on 5/30/15 at 10:08 am to monsterballads
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could put multiple tanks on an LCAC
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Vehicles per Sortie
12 HMMWVs per sortie
4 LAVs per sortie
2 AAVs per sortie
1 M1A1 per sortie
4 M923 per sortie
2 M923 5-Ton Trucks,2 M198 Howitzers, and 2 HMMWVs per sortie
For fricks sake are we storming the beaches in Iraq or Afghanistan. Im not debating the Navy's ability to project power, Im talking about what is actually happening.
The last two wars the AF has been the major logistical backbone of the military getting troops into one land locked country and another with a small shore line.
The more senseless pics you post the more clueless you look.
This post was edited on 5/30/15 at 10:14 am
Posted on 5/30/15 at 10:08 am to hikingfan
The United States Air Force.
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Listen up, all you jack offs!
Not even close.
1) The USAF has ALL the ICBMs. The NAVY has smaller amounts of short range nukes in their subs. The Air Force can drop a 100x more powerful nuke anywhere in the world in 30 minutes or less.
2) modern warfare necessitates air power. All those smart bombs on TV? Air Force (AF) All those drone strikes? AF Who flies in all the equipment for the Army? AF why? Because we have the bombers that fly all assets into theater. Who provides the air cover so the can operate once in theater? AF Who keeps the air safe over America? AF Bottom line the AF has cyberspace, outer space, and air space all under it's domain. This includes nuclear power.
3) Unbeknownst to most the Special Forces of the AF is who goes behind enemy lines to retrieve downed pilots and other SoF. So basically they are the 911 for the NAVY seals. They also sit on targets to flash the lasers that guide smart bombs.
4) USAF controls the most top secret military sites. They are generally located in desert regions. There are far more secure sites than even A51. I have friends that get on planes with blindfolds and fly in a jet to their job and then can only take the blindfold off once inside and with no windows. There are truly so many things the AF controls that make it so far more reaching than you think it is not even close!
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Listen up, all you jack offs!
Not even close.
1) The USAF has ALL the ICBMs. The NAVY has smaller amounts of short range nukes in their subs. The Air Force can drop a 100x more powerful nuke anywhere in the world in 30 minutes or less.
2) modern warfare necessitates air power. All those smart bombs on TV? Air Force (AF) All those drone strikes? AF Who flies in all the equipment for the Army? AF why? Because we have the bombers that fly all assets into theater. Who provides the air cover so the can operate once in theater? AF Who keeps the air safe over America? AF Bottom line the AF has cyberspace, outer space, and air space all under it's domain. This includes nuclear power.
3) Unbeknownst to most the Special Forces of the AF is who goes behind enemy lines to retrieve downed pilots and other SoF. So basically they are the 911 for the NAVY seals. They also sit on targets to flash the lasers that guide smart bombs.
4) USAF controls the most top secret military sites. They are generally located in desert regions. There are far more secure sites than even A51. I have friends that get on planes with blindfolds and fly in a jet to their job and then can only take the blindfold off once inside and with no windows. There are truly so many things the AF controls that make it so far more reaching than you think it is not even close!
Posted on 5/30/15 at 10:10 am to rebeloke
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Unbeknownst to most the Special Forces of the AF is who goes behind enemy lines to retrieve downed pilots and other SoF. So basically they are the 911 for the NAVY seals. They also sit on targets to flash the lasers that guide smart bombs.
PJ,CCT and TACP are some of the best kept secrets in the military
Posted on 5/30/15 at 10:10 am to StraightCashHomey21
When was the last time a PJ actually rescued a downed pilot?
Posted on 5/30/15 at 10:11 am to hikingfan
It's the Navy and it's not close. They have their own Air Force plus the Marines. Semper Fi.
Posted on 5/30/15 at 10:12 am to GeauxxxTigers23
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When was the last time a PJ actually rescued a downed pilot?
Who knows but they sure are busy pulling special forces out of the shite or deploying as their medic.
Posted on 5/30/15 at 10:14 am to StraightCashHomey21
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Who knows but they sure are busy pulling special forces out of the shite or deploying as their medic.
My point is that all of those AF spec op fields are redundant and could easily be taken over by the other services.
Posted on 5/30/15 at 10:14 am to rebeloke
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1) The USAF has ALL the ICBMs. The NAVY has smaller amounts of short range nukes in their subs. The Air Force can drop a 100x more powerful nuke anywhere in the world in 30 minutes or less.
Totally fricking false. SSBNs carry 24 ICBMs with multiple warheads on each AND the enemy has no fricking clue where they are at any given time.
Posted on 5/30/15 at 10:15 am to GeauxxxTigers23
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My point is that all of those AF spec op fields are redundant and could easily be taken over by the other services.
negative ghost ride
there is a reason they are the best at what they do
Posted on 5/30/15 at 10:16 am to GeauxxxTigers23
Navy has surface, air, sea, and sub sea covered. not to mention the deployment of marines by land, air, and sea and the SEAL's.
Posted on 5/30/15 at 10:17 am to monsterballads
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and the SEAL's.
you sure do eat it up
they are are only special ops

Posted on 5/30/15 at 10:18 am to StraightCashHomey21
yeah the SEAL's. what a joke right? surely airforce PJ's are more important.
Posted on 5/30/15 at 10:18 am to GeauxxxTigers23
We have to rescue downed helicopter pilots and their crews all the time. Most of the casualties are listed as training accidents because they were classified missions. So many of these missions go unreported.
Posted on 5/30/15 at 10:19 am to monsterballads
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monsterballads
you are not making a strong case for the Navy, posting all this dumb shite
Posted on 5/30/15 at 10:19 am to GeauxxxTigers23
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The Air Force is the least important. We've won ground wars before without air support and we could do it again. It's simply a nice to have. We are a country with an ocean on each side. We trade with almost every other country in the world. The bulk of that trade goes in boats across the oceans. Protecting the shipping lanes is the vital to our economy. The Navy is the most important.
Name a war won without air support. And it's the air support that made the USA dominant and separate itself from the rest.
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