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re: where will we get the juice for all these EVs?
Posted on 6/13/21 at 9:15 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
Posted on 6/13/21 at 9:15 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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Darth, I likely made more money brfire 30 than you make now.
LOL. You’re stupid enough to believe that I’m sure.
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Posted on 6/13/21 at 9:15 pm to Darth_Vader
Wishes and.good vibes, right?
Posted on 6/13/21 at 9:17 pm to Darth_Vader
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LOL. You’re stupid enough to believe that I’m sure.
Based on the way you're bragging about 6 figures, yes
Posted on 6/13/21 at 9:18 pm to tiger2180
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What is the answer for AC/ Phone Chargers,radios running in traffic jams? How does that effect the mileage range of EV’s?
I googled it because I was interested too. Found some posts from some people in the UK that reported around 5% loss in range after sitting in a 2 hour jam with the heat on.
Posted on 6/13/21 at 9:18 pm to TigersnJeeps
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I just wonder what happens when i am stuck in a traffic jam for 2-3 hours due to an accident here in FL in mid-July with no escape route to a charger....
EV’s don’t have to idle like an ICE, so the only loads when you’re at a full stop are your air conditioner, radio, etc.
Granted, the air conditioner is still a load. But it’s not that much compared to actually powering the drivetrain. Stop and go traffic is probably where EV’s look the best vs. ICE’s because of the idle efficiency.
Posted on 6/13/21 at 9:26 pm to lostinbr
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Granted, the air conditioner is still a load. But it’s not that much compared to actually powering the drivetrain
Radio on?
Windshield wipers?
Bluetooth?
Navigation?
Dashboard display?
All that PLUS A/C...
You'll have a line of fricking paperweights littering the highway.
Posted on 6/13/21 at 9:27 pm to Darth_Vader
quote:By using some of our unused capacity. Per one of your links, we have more than a billion kilowatts of generating capacity. Times 8,760 hours in a year equals 8.8 trillion kWh of possible production. We generate and use less than half that, per your research. Per your math, we would have to increase production from 4 trillion to 5 trillion kWh. Even if there are technical issues with simply using more of our untapped capacity, a 25% increase in production seems easily attainable over the course of a couple decades.
How will we fill this shortfall??
The real issue is peak demand, which EVs can actually help with by restricting home charging to off-peak and actually reducing grid demand by powering the home from the EVs pack during typical peak times.
Posted on 6/13/21 at 9:30 pm to udtiger
How are you going to power heavy equipment? trains? ships? buses? trucks? aircraft? industrial generators?
This post was edited on 6/13/21 at 9:31 pm
Posted on 6/13/21 at 9:30 pm to BuddyRoeaux
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Point a box fan, powered by a solar shield, in front of a wind turbine. Problem solved.
I’m thinking you’d be better off just connecting your battery directly to the solar panel. Not well off… but better off.
This post was edited on 6/13/21 at 9:32 pm
Posted on 6/13/21 at 9:34 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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Based on the way you're bragging about 6 figures, yes
I’m not bragging. Just educating you that machine sales reps make dam good money since this was about the third or fourth time you threw it up to me even though I’ve informed you multiple times I’m not a machine sales rep.
Posted on 6/13/21 at 9:35 pm to Clames
quote:Psst, I don't need to know the answer to that question. It's entirely relevant whether I know or not.
You and every other EV homer who's STEM education ended in grade school.
Posted on 6/13/21 at 9:36 pm to udtiger
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Radio on?
Windshield wipers?
Bluetooth?
Navigation?
Dashboard display?
Those are all pretty low power accessories lol.
quote:
You'll have a line of fricking paperweights littering the highway.
The new F150 can power a reasonably sized house for 3 days lmao
This post was edited on 6/13/21 at 9:39 pm
Posted on 6/13/21 at 9:36 pm to lostinbr
So AC , and all other electronics will not draw the battery down?
Posted on 6/13/21 at 9:37 pm to Korkstand
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actually reducing grid demand by powering the home from the EVs pack during typical peak times.
There’s massive potential here. You can power your house for days on a normal EV. If you have stored power you don’t need you could sell it back to the grid for more than you purchased it for. There’s a shite load of scenarios and possibilities.
Storage changes the game. I did a project with LG to qualify some tech for an investor and it’s really cool what they were doing in Ca to give PG&E the
to exploit their ridiculous rate swings. 
Posted on 6/13/21 at 9:40 pm to antibarner
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How are you going to power heavy equipment? trains?
Some really large excavators used in mines are electric iirc.
And electric trains are definitely a thing. The problem there is installing and paying for all of the infrastructure. Electric trains are not battery powered due to the insane current demands, so they are supplied by an overhead system called catenary generally.
A few class one railroads have studied electrifying some high density and/or mountain lines and for private enterprise the benefits have not outweighed the costs.
Posted on 6/13/21 at 9:41 pm to Darth_Vader
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you’d know machine sales reps usually make well over six figures a year.
By the way, every data point disagrees with this statement
According to the Department of Labor the median salary in 2019 for Heavy Equipment Salesman was about 81k.
Very, very few professions exist where most make over 100k.
Posted on 6/13/21 at 9:41 pm to udtiger
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Radio on?
Windshield wipers?
Bluetooth?
Navigation?
Dashboard display?
All that PLUS A/C...
You'll have a line of fricking paperweights littering the highway.
You’re either severely overestimating the electrical load of those items or severely underestimating the capacity of an EV’s battery.
The average home in Louisiana uses 1,254 kWh each month. That means an 80 kWh EV battery could power an entire home in Louisiana for nearly 2 days. You think a car A/C is going to drain it in a couple of hours?
Posted on 6/13/21 at 9:43 pm to udtiger
quote:It uses very little juice when sitting and not moving on traffic. The list you gave uses very little from the car.
Radio on?
Windshield wipers?
Bluetooth?
Navigation?
Dashboard display?
All that PLUS A/C...
You'll have a line of fricking paperweights littering the highway.
This post was edited on 6/13/21 at 9:45 pm
Posted on 6/13/21 at 9:44 pm to billjamin
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There’s massive potential here. You can power your house for days on a normal EV. If you have stored power you don’t need you could sell it back to the grid for more than you purchased it for. There’s a shite load of scenarios and possibilities.
So the grid connected to your home is required to power the batteries for EV’s ,but EV’s will power your home for days? How? I’m confused!
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