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Where are the COVID deaths?

Posted on 8/10/20 at 7:16 pm
Posted by Anaximander
3524 Third St New Orleans, LA
Member since Jun 2018
3412 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 7:16 pm
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According to the CDC, through the end of July the average number of total deaths in the United States per day was 7,434 this year.

In 2017 there were an average of more than 7,700 deaths per day in the United States.

Where is the major increase in COVID-19 related death?


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Posted by 91TIGER
Lafayette
Member since Aug 2006
17678 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 7:22 pm to
Shhhh, the Masked Covidians are working on a narrative to explain why deaths are equal in the preceding three years.
Posted by TheWalrus
Member since Dec 2012
40385 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 7:25 pm to
They’ve merged with other deaths
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
94859 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 7:26 pm to
quote:

They’ve merged with other deaths




How are total deaths down?
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
34982 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 7:26 pm to
Not really a fair comparison. 2017 was Hurricane Harvey.
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
24625 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 7:27 pm to
Covid deaths simply replaced normal deaths that occur everyday. This is common knowledge and has been admitted as much by multiple health officials around the country. Only simpletons still believe the hype
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
66982 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 7:31 pm to
quote:

Covid deaths simply replaced normal deaths that occur everyday.


Como say what
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 7:41 pm to
Any time somebody uses only one random year as a stat that proves a point you know it's probably suspect.

What about 2018? 2019? Also, what is the delta for specific types of deaths that aren't commonly conflated with COVID-19? People drove a lot less, so is it possible that there were far fewer fatal auto accidents?
Posted by Privateer 2007
Member since Jan 2020
6149 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 8:14 pm to
quote:

auto accidents


I think car crashes is 65k dead/year.
Thats 1200/week or so.
So 180 or so per day.
If assume a 30% reduction that's only 54/day less from auto accidents.
Posted by tonydtigr
Beautiful Downtown Glenn Springs,Tx
Member since Nov 2011
5095 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 8:23 pm to
quote:

People drove a lot less, so is it possible that there were far fewer fatal auto accidents?



Could you link those statistics?
Posted by WilsonPickett
St Amant, LA
Member since Oct 2009
1647 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 8:34 pm to
2018 was 7778 per day (2,839,205 total)
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81604 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 8:34 pm to
quote:

Covid deaths simply replaced normal deaths that occur everyday. This is common knowledge
This makes no sense.
Posted by Anaximander
3524 Third St New Orleans, LA
Member since Jun 2018
3412 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 8:35 pm to
quote:

Any time somebody uses only one random year as a stat that proves a point you know it's probably suspect.

What about 2018? 2019? Also, what is the delta for specific types of deaths that aren't commonly conflated with COVID-19? People drove a lot less, so is it possible that there were far fewer fatal auto accidents?




Per NCHS, 7778 people died per day in 2018. CDC NCHS

2019 a bit tougher to find though I found a chart...
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 8:51 pm to
Looks like 175k people a year die from respiratory diseases, pneumonia, and influenza.

I would expect that some of those numbers were cannibalized by COVID-19. The question is how many and why?

I'm hesitant to jump on a qanon conspiracy theory without at least analyzing data and the cause and effect behind it. Outcomes based data can be a trap at times.
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
24625 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 5:40 am to
quote:

This makes no sense.




in 2019 - Person dies of the flu. Flu related death.
In 2020 - Person dies of the flu. Covid got em.

This is why there's been no spike in deaths across the country.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
62725 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 5:52 am to
Current deaths aren't the latest rage of Twitter idiots, it's now "Long term effects"
Posted by biscuitsngravy
Tejas, north America
Member since Jan 2011
2999 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 7:22 am to
correct, it's about the positivity rate and long term symptoms now.... ridiculous.
This post was edited on 8/11/20 at 7:23 am
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48294 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 7:27 am to
I believe there is a pretty standard delay in current year reporting as to cause of death from the CDC. It may be more useful to look at the average ending in May.
Posted by hubreb
Member since Nov 2008
1843 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 7:27 am to
Deaths in 0-24 are way down vs the prior 5 years...has to be fewer car crashes
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
33855 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 7:40 am to
quote:

Covid deaths simply replaced normal deaths that occur everyday. This is common knowledge and has been admitted as much by multiple health officials around the country. Only simpletons still believe the hype


Increases in suicides, overdoses, murders, lack of treatments like chemo, and old/sick people too afraid to go to the hospital have nothing to do with with number of people dying?
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