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re: When will the hate Trump thing not be cool anymore?
Posted on 1/28/18 at 11:23 pm to TxTiger82
Posted on 1/28/18 at 11:23 pm to TxTiger82
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I don't think he's trying. He uses executive orders as a dog whistle,
the previous president used executive orders against the constitution
plenty of trumps orders were to overturn obamas crap. come one
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The biggest thing Trump has accomplished is the tax bill, and that reads like a GOPe wet dream.
why is a tax cut a gop wet dream?
i thought everyone would like less taxes?
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Posted on 1/28/18 at 11:23 pm to SCLibertarian
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The only politician in my lifetime whom I believed wholeheartedly when he spoke was Ron Paul.
Posted on 1/28/18 at 11:25 pm to Deactived
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the previous president used executive orders against the constitution
Executive orders are a way to circumvent constitutionally ascribed processes. So this is true of almost any executive order. Not unconstitutional ... more like extra-constitutional.
But they are easily undone.
Posted on 1/28/18 at 11:26 pm to Cocotheape
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Trump is coming in well into the 3rd longest economic expansion in US history. He better hope his corporate stimulus tax cut works and there aren't any bubbles waiting to pop, because his born on 3rd base economy is all he's got.
Oh, I see. It's all Obama's credit.
Posted on 1/28/18 at 11:27 pm to Deactived
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why is a tax cut a gop wet dream?
It is ALEC-style legislation applied at the national level. It is as GOPe as it gets. The fact that you do not understand this makes me question your general understanding of contemporary American politics.
Posted on 1/28/18 at 11:27 pm to Wolfhound45
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Pipe dream.
But WHYYYYYY????
It happens in other countries. In France they have school lunches better than I ever make on my own.
Why don't we take money from building the next B-52 and put it towards getting homeless people off the street? It would be better for all of us. I hate homeless people, too! The solution isn't making more homeless people!
Posted on 1/28/18 at 11:27 pm to Wolfhound45
duplicate post.
This post was edited on 1/28/18 at 11:29 pm
Posted on 1/28/18 at 11:28 pm to WaltTeevens
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I know that paying more in tax is frustrating, but what if somehow, we could re-work the system so that the taxes went to actual good things that could make ALL of our lives easier?
Is that such a terrible idea?
Socialism has never worked. Ever. People like Bernie like to point to Scandinavian countries but they are just big government nanny states with market economies. Cuba, Nazi Germany, Venezuela and the USSR were true socialist countries.
Capitalism will always produce unequal results because there will always be inequality in genetics, financial circumstances, effort etc. It's still the best system the world has ever seen. Our poor have decent lives by world standards.
This post was edited on 1/28/18 at 11:30 pm
Posted on 1/28/18 at 11:32 pm to PortHudsonPlaya
I’m not anti trump but it blows my mind how out of touch America really is. The average ot baller is taxed between 30-40 percent. The first revolutionary war was caused over much less. Why are we standing for this shite. Pubs and dems are both to blame.
Posted on 1/28/18 at 11:32 pm to jdeval1
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Cuba, Nazi Germany, Venezuela and the USSR were true socialist countries.
No, those were communist countries. Look at Scandinavia for socialist countries.
And I know the next line coming...."They're HOMOGENOUS countries! All white people!" Just save it. Melanin in skin has nothing to do with your values.
Posted on 1/28/18 at 11:38 pm to WaltTeevens
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It would be better for all of us. I hate homeless people
so for the time being would you agree that we should close the borders and help the people that are currently here.
we have a severe mental health problem that has been ignored for decades. im all for people getting here legally but the complete disregard for the homeless people here is disgusting while just willingly allowing whoever to set up shop here and get more benefits than people that have been here for 30+ years
Posted on 1/28/18 at 11:39 pm to Choupique19
No. Economy has very little to do with the President, was true for Obama and true for Trump. However, Presidents are judged heavily by economic results during their term (not just the stock market, the economy). The economy naturally grew coming out of recession for Obama. It's cyclical, no shock there, no need to give O credit for it.
Problem for Trump is, he's got something he has very little control over (the economy) that his entire appeal to swing voters is based off of. His policies (if you can even claim he even has such things other than "build the wall make Mexico pay for it" and "repeal Obamacare day 1") are unpopular outside of his base (30% of the electorate).
But again, the Democrats are a dumpster fire that will probably do their part to get McConnell's useful idiot reelected.
Problem for Trump is, he's got something he has very little control over (the economy) that his entire appeal to swing voters is based off of. His policies (if you can even claim he even has such things other than "build the wall make Mexico pay for it" and "repeal Obamacare day 1") are unpopular outside of his base (30% of the electorate).
But again, the Democrats are a dumpster fire that will probably do their part to get McConnell's useful idiot reelected.
Posted on 1/28/18 at 11:42 pm to WaltTeevens
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No, those were communist countries.
They were socialist. Communism would be virtually stateless
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Look at Scandinavia for socialist countries.
Scandinavian countries aren't close ro being socialist. In some ways, their economies are more free than ours. They are welfare buffer capitalist societies.
Venezuela is closer to a socialist country.
Posted on 1/28/18 at 11:44 pm to WaltTeevens
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It happens in other countries. In France they have school lunches better than I ever make on my own.
France is having economic problems
Welfare state works when you have a productive population with good work ethic and common values. That isn't the USA
Posted on 1/28/18 at 11:49 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Scandinavian countries aren't close ro being socialist. In some ways, their economies are more free than ours. They are welfare buffer capitalist societies.
Venezuela is closer to a socialist country.
It bothers me that people don't know this. What they really want is a big government nanny state. I want the opposite.
Posted on 1/28/18 at 11:50 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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France is having economic problems
And a permenant 10-15% unemployment rate. They have a lower standard of living than the average US citizen.
Posted on 1/28/18 at 11:52 pm to jdeval1
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It bothers me that people don't know this.
There have been major attempts to get people to accept socialism under the guise of social democracies, and it dishonest.
But it works. I wonder how popular Socialism would be if people were properly educated?
Posted on 1/29/18 at 1:14 am to PortHudsonPlaya
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Not a fan of the guy, but when will every celebrity quit using their stage time to bash Trump because it's the cool thing to do?
I don't think its a big deal when people bash him nor do I think its a big deal when Trump delivers a sound byte piece that rattles his haters to the core.
who cares if celebrities bash him anyway? There is so much activity on social media everyday that each comment vanishes like a fart in the wind.
some comments might linger a little longer but in the end they all get buried in this uptempo pace.
Posted on 1/29/18 at 3:40 am to WaltTeevens
quote:We don’t build them anymore. But I will cede your point for purposes of this argument. Do you know why we do not do those things? Because politics is money and money is power. The altruistic side of our society is long gone. Once we went to direct taxation of the citizenry we removed all form of restraint from the federal government. The fourth division of power, the several States, was removed from the equation. We now have unbridled election machines whose sole focus is bribing voters to support a particular political party. Idiocracy is almost upon us.
building the next B-52
Posted on 1/29/18 at 5:50 am to TxTiger82
It’s mostly tongue in cheek but I saw the power of memes first hand this last election.
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