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re: When did the idea all kids go to college begin?
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:19 pm to House_of Cards
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:19 pm to House_of Cards
When America declared a war on infrastructure and started vilifying technical workers.
Show me one plumber on TV that isn't fat and slovenly with an asscrack
Show me one plumber on TV that isn't fat and slovenly with an asscrack
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Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:19 pm to McLemore
I was pointing out a grammatical error. golden badger likes to follow me around and post something mean to me no matter what I post, so don't worry about him. He's like a little parasite that won't go away.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:21 pm to House_of Cards
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:21 pm to TigerHam85
quote::kige:
it's very strange that you stalk that poster.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:25 pm to House_of Cards
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House_of Cards
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There are always exceptions. But, the geared focus is still test scores. And states are different in how they push these measures forward.
With new federal programs and money allocation based on school ratings, these will continue to diminish.
1.) Go onto LWC's website (LAworks.net).
2.) Look up Workforce Investment Act providers.
3.) Tell me that we are in danger of losing technical schools.
4.) Tell me we are in danger of losing vocational schools.
5.) Stop posting about things you know nothing about.
6.) Do us all a favor and don't bother with Steps 1-4 and skip straight to #5.
This post was edited on 12/11/14 at 1:28 pm
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:26 pm to Epic Cajun
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But, to say that college tuition isn't worth it, is a broad generalization.
It's the same broad generalization that says going to college is better than not.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:27 pm to House_of Cards
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Schools need to focus on creating functional citizens and not college-ready. There is no shame in making $50,000/year working a blue-collar and starting the workforce at age 19 as opposed to starting at 22 and making even less. working a "college degree job."
How many careers are out there for a 19 year old with no skills or college degree to earn 50,000 a year besides working offshore?
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:32 pm to Dr. Shultz
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How many careers are out there for a 19 year old with no skills or college degree to earn 50,000 a year besides working offshore?
Exactly. Hell it's hard enough to find a job with a college degree.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:40 pm to CajunAlum Tiger Fan
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same broad generalization that says going to college is better than not.
Both are generalizations, but compare the lifetime earnings of college graduates vs high school/vo tech graduates and you will see that "in general" college graduates make more money. Don't get me wrong, I'm not championing those who go to school for some liberal arts nonsense.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:50 pm to Epic Cajun
The main problem is not that there are not enough schools, or not enough jobs.
As a millenial, for amny it is a social constraint that college is a must.
It is the same for how it used to be for high school diplomas, and it is still truly shocking how many students do not graduate at least high school. Now to actually get ahead you have seen the need for masters degrees, and doctorates, more than ever. Pretty soon MBAs, JDs, and other post undergrad learning will be the norm.
As a millenial, for amny it is a social constraint that college is a must.
It is the same for how it used to be for high school diplomas, and it is still truly shocking how many students do not graduate at least high school. Now to actually get ahead you have seen the need for masters degrees, and doctorates, more than ever. Pretty soon MBAs, JDs, and other post undergrad learning will be the norm.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:52 pm to House_of Cards
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It's a very American idea, and I hate it (I'm in education).
Maybe half the students that are in college SHOULD actually be there.
It's a very American idea, and I hate it (I'm in education).
Maybe half the students that are in college SHOULD actually be there.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 2:04 pm to Epic Cajun
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compare the lifetime earnings of college graduates vs high school/vo tech graduates and you will see that "in general" college graduates make more money
Yeah, we've heard that forever. . . show me the causation.
Those statements assume everyone is equal leaving high school and college/no college is the only variable leading to financial earnings success. It's not simply the act of graduating from college that leads to this success, its the hard work, determination, and talent it took to do so.
If college did not exist for anyone and we all entered the workforce after high school, the same people that would go to college and be successful today, would still be more successful than their peers. Smart, talented, hard working people will be successful, college or not. . .and that's a good thing.
In general
Posted on 12/11/14 at 2:05 pm to House_of Cards
It kept you out of war
Posted on 12/11/14 at 2:13 pm to CajunAlum Tiger Fan
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Smart, talented, hard working people
Should all go to college. It's the dummies that shouldn't
Posted on 12/11/14 at 2:16 pm to House_of Cards
There seems to be this big misconception that if you don't have a $60k salary or whatever after college then it was all a big failure.
The "value" of a college degree doesn't come from how much your salary is after graduation. It is the education and college experience you get from it. The only people that seem to get that are the ones that attended (and actually graduated) college.
If you don't care much about the "college experience" and just want to learn a hard skill and make money then by all means go to a trade school.
The "value" of a college degree doesn't come from how much your salary is after graduation. It is the education and college experience you get from it. The only people that seem to get that are the ones that attended (and actually graduated) college.
If you don't care much about the "college experience" and just want to learn a hard skill and make money then by all means go to a trade school.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 2:18 pm to House_of Cards
Posted on 12/11/14 at 2:26 pm to NewIberiaHaircut
Also, interesting is that is the non-college person in this scenario invests money in a savings account yielding 6%, then the retirement of them is interesting.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 2:32 pm to House_of Cards
I grew up under the impression that U HAVE TO GO TO COLLEGE. U HAVE TO GO TO COLLEGE. U HAVE TO GO TO COLLEGE. From my family.
I went to college and couldnt get anywhere with a degree (like many others).
So my dad told me "why won't you go out into a plant and learn a trade".
My close friends were in the same boat as me. Working dead in jobs and we decided that we all want to get into the industrial field.
We're all happy now.
I went to college and couldnt get anywhere with a degree (like many others).
So my dad told me "why won't you go out into a plant and learn a trade".
My close friends were in the same boat as me. Working dead in jobs and we decided that we all want to get into the industrial field.
We're all happy now.
This post was edited on 12/11/14 at 2:33 pm
Posted on 12/11/14 at 2:38 pm to Modern
Sounds like you graduated with the "wrong" degree.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 2:53 pm to House_of Cards
TOPS didn't help the problem either with middle of the road requirements
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