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re: When did big oil leave NewO?

Posted on 9/15/19 at 9:26 pm to
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 9/15/19 at 9:26 pm to
I think Chevron is still on the northshore. The other major companies trickled to Houston in the 1980s if not earlier.
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
20824 posts
Posted on 9/15/19 at 9:31 pm to
That's just a satellite office and they have downsized the staff there.

CVX has always been headquartered in Cali.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61722 posts
Posted on 9/15/19 at 9:38 pm to
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I think Chevron is still on the northshore.


Nah, they have a small group there.

Shell still has a decent group in Nola in the Hancock Whitney building. Damn that hurts to type that.
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
29713 posts
Posted on 9/15/19 at 9:39 pm to
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Okay, I know all about why they left. I am curious as to when they did and who, particularly the majors. And was it their headquarters?


It was due to the bankruptcy laws in Texas versus Louisiana. If you filed BK when the oil industry collapsed in Louisiana you lost everything but 15k but if you filed BK in Texas then you lost everything but your private residence so all of the oil/gas execs & wildcaters moved to Texas and bought the biggest house they could so the company would BK but themselves personally got to keep their enormous estates so the creditors couldn't touch them. It was all about self preservation and Texas & Florida for that matter had the best BK laws in the country.
This post was edited on 9/15/19 at 9:40 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476092 posts
Posted on 9/15/19 at 9:40 pm to
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bankruptcy laws in Texas versus Louisiana

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Texas & Florida for that matter had the best BK laws in the country.


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bankruptcy


Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
20824 posts
Posted on 9/15/19 at 9:42 pm to
That is interesting, think I have heard that before.

Wish my grandfather would have done that.
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
49660 posts
Posted on 9/15/19 at 9:42 pm to
How many Louisiana Wildcatters do you think there are or was? About none.
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
29713 posts
Posted on 9/15/19 at 9:45 pm to
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How many Louisiana Wildcatters do you think there are or was? About none.


You had several thousand wildcatters in Louisiana. Patrick Taylor and Doc being two of the most well known.
Posted by lsugradman
Member since Sep 2003
8970 posts
Posted on 9/15/19 at 9:48 pm to
Wrong. Cvx presence in Covington is larger than Shells in NO. The Northshore office is their GOM headquarters.
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 9/15/19 at 9:55 pm to
When it started going the way of SJW shithole
Posted by johnnydrama
Possibly Trashy
Member since Feb 2010
9192 posts
Posted on 9/15/19 at 9:56 pm to
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NewO


WTF is this?


NOLA works just fine, thank you.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61722 posts
Posted on 9/15/19 at 9:59 pm to
Sorry. I must have read the OP wrong and gave a dumb response
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
49660 posts
Posted on 9/15/19 at 10:07 pm to
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Patrick Taylor and Doc being two of the most well known.


And neither left for Texas.
Posted by DeathValley1924
Clear Lake, TX
Member since Aug 2006
756 posts
Posted on 9/15/19 at 10:09 pm to
Amoco left after the merger with BP
Posted by Mr Breeze
The Lunatic Fringe
Member since Dec 2010
6805 posts
Posted on 9/15/19 at 10:17 pm to
No major oil co ever had its corporate HQ in Nola.

Some notably Shell had a significant presence and their regional executive in the 90's lobbied hard to remain. Eventually he lost to the Houston consolidation trend started during the mid 80's oil price crash.

Nola and LA politics, corruption, higher taxes, lack of quality public education, higher housing prices and Nola crime all played a part.

Once the internet became a reliable data comms method around the mid 90s, there was simply no good reason to keep engineering or staff offices close to production sites offshore LA.

It's quite remarkable looking back at what we've lost, and all to predictable at the time.


Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
20824 posts
Posted on 9/15/19 at 10:22 pm to
While not thier global HQs, that the Hague, One Shell Square had to be the US HQs correct?

The 4 biggest buildings in NewO were all orginally oil company buildings.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
84590 posts
Posted on 9/15/19 at 10:23 pm to


Aren’t BK laws federal?
Posted by hehateme2285
Katy, TX
Member since Dec 2007
5317 posts
Posted on 9/15/19 at 10:30 pm to
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Wrong. Cvx presence in Covington is larger than Shells in NO. The Northshore office is their GOM headquarters.


CVX has moved the majority of their GoM business unit to Houston
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
40840 posts
Posted on 9/15/19 at 10:30 pm to
quote:

While not thier global HQs, that the Hague, One Shell Square had to be the US HQs correct?



One Shell Plaza was built one year before One Shell Square.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74200 posts
Posted on 9/15/19 at 10:36 pm to
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