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re: What’s your solution for the homeless?

Posted on 12/26/23 at 11:06 pm to
Posted by HooDooWitch
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Posted on 12/26/23 at 11:06 pm to
Eat them. You know, like the nutria.
Posted by holmesbr
Baton Rouge, La.
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 12/26/23 at 11:40 pm to
Put them in homes in someone else's town.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
15011 posts
Posted on 12/26/23 at 11:48 pm to
Have we talked about exporting them to Mexico?
Posted by TchoupitoulasTiger
NOLA
Member since May 2011
1287 posts
Posted on 12/27/23 at 12:03 am to
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How about that island that's off limits to people. The one where the natives kill you the minute you pull up.


North Sentinel Island








Posted by REB BEER
Laffy Yet
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Posted on 12/27/23 at 4:56 am to
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Eat them


Such a Modest Proposal
Posted by Fat Harry
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Posted on 12/27/23 at 6:30 am to
Mandatory commitment to mental institutions would solve it with the quickness.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 12/27/23 at 7:04 am to
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Mandatory commitment to mental institutions would solve it with the quickness.
Mental illness is obviously the linchpin of the solution (as opposed to being the one and only cause/effect).

But, state run or private institutions funded wholly by the state were utter failures. It is possible to avoid the Wile E. Coyote syndrome and start them up again while executing it in a better manner. I wouldn't count on it.

At the same time it cannot be ignored there is a correlation between the rise in mental illness frequency (expressed in homelessness) and our healthcare's proclivity to treating everything with pharmaceuticals. This, in this context, is the substitution to the lack of institutions. It obviously isn't working either. While the correlation between over-medicating and increase in homelessness is there, the causal relationship is not established. I think it exists and is bi-directional, symbiotic. Each leads to more of the other.

To make the over medication issue worse is Obamacare. It became more profitable for pharma, and easier for the mentally ill to get access to that medication that wasn't solving (and maybe causing) the issue. While homelessness increased as drug issuances increased, there was a spike in both after Obamacare. It was a reward for bad behavior for both the pharma companies and the mentally ill, both to the detriment of the average taxpayer.

Before you start warehousing mentally ill you have to fix this problem and break the trend. However, recalling that over-medication was indeed the substitute for institutions, where do go when you remove the broken fix for the first broken fix?

- Do you just strip them of citizenship and deport them?

- Do you reopen the institutions before addressing the medication issue and go backwards? I say yes. It will be the lesser of two evils. Those institutions will have to be free of illicit drugs and means other than legal medications used for treatment (at least in moderation).

The problem will continue to get worse. Meds will still be readily available to continue the medication downward spiral, homelessness is not being dissuaded, govt spending will only increase, treatment is still lacking, illicit drug use will continue to increase (making the core issue worse), and illicit drug supply is not even remotely curtailed. So unless something very radical, probably unconstitutional (which is only an issue if you aren't a Marxist), such as deportation is used the only path is institutions executed more efficiently and humanely is the only one available.
Posted by John88
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Posted on 12/27/23 at 7:35 am to

Posted by tunechi
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 12/27/23 at 8:12 am to
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Already here

Don't believe me, look at this pic


The most Facebook meme of all Facebook memes
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
54852 posts
Posted on 12/27/23 at 9:13 am to
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I would have to hear him plug straight into a Twin Reverb to judge that.



I'm sure he'd blow your mind.
Posted by Sevensblue
Las Vegas
Member since Apr 2022
1750 posts
Posted on 12/27/23 at 9:19 am to
My answer is fentanyl...watch em fall like flies
Maybe to heartless idk..
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
34111 posts
Posted on 12/27/23 at 9:31 am to
Need to separate the mentally competent/addiction-free from the crazy and addicts. Ultimately the only real problem is those that are sane and not addicted but just really want to live that way.
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
33916 posts
Posted on 12/27/23 at 9:42 am to
I'm serious about this - we should allocate 3 billion dollars to building a large scale, state of the art facility recovery and rehabilitation center and it should be completely free - to American Veterans only.

I say 3 billion because that's the same amount that we just sent to the UN for climate change.

We should take care of our veterans first.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 12/27/23 at 10:02 am to
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What’s your solution for the homeless?


Just a little anecdotal story.

Here in town we have a group that feeds people on the street in downtown near all the oil companies.

The cops come out and issue warnings and then subsequently citations because they are supposed to be feeding them in a certain area.

The group who puts together the food and serves it are blaming the cops for merely doing their job when in actuality, it's the mayor who is behind it due to pressure from business owners.

The truly mentally ill should be put into treatment, same with drug offenders but the lazy ones should be arrested for littering.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281857 posts
Posted on 12/27/23 at 10:03 am to
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Need to separate the mentally competent/addiction-free from the crazy and addicts.


Indeed.

If we stopped paying for those who can, we could actually help those who cannot.

The bleeding hearts focus on people who can way too often, they deserve nothing.
Posted by BabyTac
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2008
14317 posts
Posted on 12/27/23 at 10:06 am to
Lose citizenship. Have a few ‘tent city’s’ scattered throughout border towns where they have to stay with other migrants trying to prove they belong and follow all checks and balances.

There is zero reason for anyone to be homeless in America other than complete failure on multiple fronts.
Posted by TygerTyger
Houston
Member since Oct 2010
10292 posts
Posted on 12/27/23 at 10:10 am to
Stop giving them free shite.

The end.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
38790 posts
Posted on 12/27/23 at 10:16 am to
Houston has done a great job getting homeless of the streets. You can go miles on the bayou trails that would be perfect of tent set ups and not see a single homeless. Ran 20 miles yesterday and saw one dude sleeping.


quote:

During the last decade, Houston, the nation’s fourth most populous city, has moved more than 25,000 homeless people directly into apartments and houses. The overwhelming majority of them have remained housed after two years. The number of people deemed homeless in the Houston region has been cut by 63 percent since 2011, according to the latest numbers from local officials. Even judging by the more modest metrics registered in a 2020 federal report, Houston did more than twice as well as the rest of the country at reducing homelessness over the previous decade. Ten years ago, homeless veterans, one of the categories that the federal government tracks, waited 720 days and had to navigate 76 bureaucratic steps to get from the street into permanent housing with support from social service counselors. Today, a streamlined process means the wait for housing is 32 days.

Houston has gotten this far by teaming with county agencies and persuading scores of local service providers, corporations and charitable nonprofits — organizations that often bicker and compete with one another — to row in unison. Together, they’ve gone all in on “housing first,” a practice, supported by decades of research, that moves the most vulnerable people straight from the streets into apartments, not into shelters, and without first requiring them to wean themselves off drugs or complete a 12-step program or find God or a job.

There are addiction recovery and religious conversion programs that succeed in getting people off the street. But housing first involves a different logic: When you’re drowning, it doesn’t help if your rescuer insists you learn to swim before returning you to shore. You can address your issues once you’re on land. Or not. Either way, you join the wider population of people battling demons behind closed doors.


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Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
38790 posts
Posted on 12/27/23 at 10:24 am to
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Here in town we have a group that feeds people on the street in downtown near all the oil companies.

The cops come out and issue warnings and then subsequently citations because they are supposed to be feeding them in a certain area.

The group who puts together the food and serves it are blaming the cops for merely doing their job when in actuality, it's the mayor who is behind it due to pressure from business owners.

The truly mentally ill should be put into treatment, same with drug offenders but the lazy ones should be arrested for littering.



The Food Not Bombs people are attention whores. They set up outside the library again and again, even after the city set up a spot down the street to do it. The city for good reason doesn't want the library to be a homeless shelter.

Houston as mentioned above has become a model for the homeless. There are a million resources for Non-profits focused on homelessness here. The food not bombs will set up outside the library every time they need new donations or just want some story to be the top of reddit. They are full of shite
Posted by Skillet
Member since Aug 2006
111668 posts
Posted on 12/27/23 at 10:28 am to
Do a reverse Haiti, and send them all there on boats from Florida.
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