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Posted on 3/21/18 at 2:22 pm to
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 3/21/18 at 2:22 pm to
Las colinas, Irving, Arlington, etc are unequivocally the burbs

Yeah las colinas has a lot of business high rises going up, but that doesn't change anything. Plano and Richardson have them too and they are without a doubt suburbs.

The cowboys moving to a city that was dumb enough to vote for a sales tax increase to get the stadium doesn't make that city not a suburb.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 3/21/18 at 2:25 pm to
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Las colinas,

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unequivocally the b

nah, pre-fab town built as a yuppie haven

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The cowboys moving to a city that was dumb enough to vote for a sales tax increase to get the stadium doesn't make that city not a suburb.


that's just where they play games, hq is now in Frisco isn't it? another "burb" that couldn't resist giving away constituents $ so the Jerry can have another new toy
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 3/21/18 at 2:30 pm to
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nah, pre-fab town built as a yuppie haven



Las colinas is a master planned part of Irving. It's a suburb within a suburb that attracted a lot of business in the 80s.

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that's just where they play games, hq is now in Frisco isn't it? another "burb" that couldn't resist giving away constituents $ so the Jerry can have another new toy


At least the one in Frisco gets to be used by the city.

High school games play there and now the Dallas pro lacrosse team will play there too.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 3/21/18 at 2:31 pm to
@TH03 So when Collin County is > than Dallas County we can then say Dallas is a suburb if we are going by definition then right?


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nah, pre-fab town built as a yuppie haven


Las Colinas is 100% LEGIT. You have award-winning master planners building subdivisions here. Accompanied by an emerging downtown scene and multiple fortune 500 HQ's, to act like this is some baron chain cookie cutter suburb is disingenuous.

The Star is in Frisco.

In 5-10 years, the "burbs" will have caught up to the urban core.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 3/21/18 at 2:34 pm to
Suburbs are the future, again
They're becoming urban satellites that are taking on a life of their own
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 3/21/18 at 2:35 pm to
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@TH03 So when Collin County is > than Dallas County we can then say Dallas is a suburb if we are going by definition then right?


No that's absurd.

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You have award-winning master planners building subdivisions here


That's like the definition of a suburb
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act like this is some baron chain cookie cutter suburb is disingenuous.


But it is. Outside of the richer neighborhoods, it's all master planned cookie cutter.

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Accompanied by an emerging downtown scene and multiple fortune 500 HQ's


So does the Plano Frisco area.

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In 5-10 years, the "burbs" will have caught up to the urban core.



Adding more cookie cutter subdivisions doesn't make it the same

I'm not even trying to be pretentious here, honestly. You just can't with a straight face tell me that las colinas, a developed area of an existing Dallas suburb, is not a suburb solely because businesses are there and it's a really cool master planned area.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 3/21/18 at 2:36 pm to
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It's a suburb within a suburb that attracted a lot of business in the 80s.


it was funny while it was being built that when the the O&G business took a dump(I'm assuming that was what was behind it's development,) it just stood there for years where development stopped, canals unfinished, inter-business railway unfinished, empty brand new office buildings, I guess tech eventually bailed it out, because of its location(on a flood plain ,) something had to eventually populate there
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 3/21/18 at 2:37 pm to
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Suburbs are the future, again



They're the future because we're probably in the middle of a 2 decade urban revitalization

Suburbs were the "present" when I was a kid
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 3/21/18 at 2:39 pm to
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Las Colinas is 100% LEGIT. You have award-winning master planners building subdivisions here.
tell me again how las colinas isn't a suburb
Posted by TH03
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 3/21/18 at 2:43 pm to
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They're becoming urban satellites that are taking on a life of their own


I mean, sure, but the urban areas of most Dallas suburbs are the same basic concept. Like an outdoor mall concept that slightly resembles a Main Street kind of vibe. Shops at legacy and legacy west in Plano, Frisco square, watters Creek in Allen, the design for the new entertainment district at the rangers new ballpark, etc.

They all have like a bed bath and beyond, a bunch of nicer chain restaurants, an Irish pub, maybe a couple local Dallas chains, etc. They're fun, sure, but given the choice, I'll go to deep ellum or bishop arts or lower greenville before those places.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 3/21/18 at 2:44 pm to
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I'm not even trying to be pretentious here, honestly. You just can't with a straight face tell me that las colinas, a developed area of an existing Dallas suburb, is not a suburb solely because businesses are there and it's a really cool master planned area


Y'all are arguing over nothing. You just both have to have the last word so this will continue with you both saying the same exact thing over and over again.

TH03 is going to tell everyone how dumb they are.

50_Tiger is going to argue that a suburb, that embraces it's exitstence as a suburb, is not a suburb. (for the record just because it's a suburb doesn't mean it's not nice or a desirable place to live, but it's 100% a burb)
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 3/21/18 at 2:48 pm to
Honestly, it's good for everyone (I've seen legacy and the like in Dallas and we have the same stuff going on for ATL).

Suburbs get more dynamic offerings which enhances attractiveness of the suburban retail/restaurants to visitors and city dwellers. For those of us living in the city itself, it probably means fewer people are crowding our shops/restaurants and clogging up roads in the process. It offers a package for corporate relocations to the suburbs that have the space and tax breaks for such things.

And people in the city are probably more willing to go out to the suburbs when the offerings are better, which helps suburbs sustain higher end things that may have failed in prior decades. For example, despite living in-town Atlanta, we go to the shops and restaurants around Suntrust Park and occasionally venture up to Avalon.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299196 posts
Posted on 3/21/18 at 2:50 pm to
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They're the future because we're probably in the middle of a 2 decade urban revitalization


It's already happening

LINK

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The suburbanization of America marches on. Population growth in big cities slowed for the fifth-straight year in 2016,1 according to new census data, while population growth accelerated in the more sprawling counties that surround them.


Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 3/21/18 at 2:53 pm to
Well that's just a dumb post.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
60657 posts
Posted on 3/21/18 at 2:56 pm to
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They're becoming urban satellites that are taking on a life of their own
well they're all pretty much exactly the same, but other than that I agree
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 3/21/18 at 3:01 pm to
In my 20's I would have preferred to live in the city but we lived in the burbs because it was more affordable. Now in my 40's I'd prefer to live in burbs but we live in the city because of the traffic
Posted by YungFO
Dallas
Member since Mar 2018
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Posted on 3/21/18 at 3:11 pm to
but thats when she meets Jodi
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/21/18 at 3:14 pm to
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Combined wife and myself, 200k would be great.



This is my goal (in 2018 dollars) and I'll coast. But she's going to part time after kids so it will be tough.

Hopefully by the time I'm 35-37 I can bring that home myself and she can stay home.
Posted by tigercross
Member since Feb 2008
5067 posts
Posted on 3/21/18 at 3:15 pm to
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@TH03 So when Collin County is > than Dallas County we can then say Dallas is a suburb if we are going by definition then right?


What? No, that's absurd. Is Orleans Parish a suburb of JP based on that? You're being obtuse.
Posted by TigerCoon
Member since Nov 2005
22469 posts
Posted on 3/21/18 at 4:10 pm to
My old man told me "it's usually not what can you do. It's what are you willing to do." that makes you successful.

I always found book smarts to be easy. I have a lot of acquaintances and buddies that I know are MUCH "slower" mentally than me who put me to shame earnings wise. They just bust their butts and put up with stuff that I am not willing to handle. I know senior VPs that I came up with, and I say "Really? THAT guy?" Maybe they are actually "smarter" than me or at least tougher.

You sound like one of my buddies.

Also, like RogerTheShrubber seems to hint at, more income isn't more happiness. I could stand a little more money, though. A place in Destin might make me a little happier.
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