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What's the skinny on Carburetors?

Posted on 11/2/15 at 9:03 pm
Posted by Kingpenm3
Xanadu
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 11/2/15 at 9:03 pm
It always seems like people talk about carburetors like you have to have a few degrees to be able to fix one. So what is the deal? If someone says an old car has a bad carb, can you just buy a new one and throw it on top of the engine? Or does every one have to be dialed in just right?







Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
19990 posts
Posted on 11/2/15 at 9:08 pm to
You are talking about something that has to meter fuel to the engine fairly precisely and no two engines are exactly the same. Not something the average nut-fricker should attempt.
Posted by tLSU
Member since Oct 2007
8692 posts
Posted on 11/2/15 at 9:12 pm to
Installing and tuning (if even necessary, depending on what you buy) a carburetor on top of a stock motor is simple enough for most to do.
Posted by Coon
La 56 Southbound
Member since Feb 2005
18579 posts
Posted on 11/2/15 at 9:12 pm to
Some can be thrown on and work if they're pre-tuned to an engine setup. I think the skill involved is tuning one that isn't pre-tuned to an engine. Add to that the fact that they're not widely used these days and it takes what I would assume is feel and hearing the minute details that too gain from years of experience and you've got a pretty small group of people that really know carbs.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
72879 posts
Posted on 11/2/15 at 9:13 pm to
It's a redundant word. They go in cars. We should just call them buraters.

"Hey Hun, I'm going over to hanks go work on his burater"

Posted by tLSU
Member since Oct 2007
8692 posts
Posted on 11/2/15 at 9:15 pm to
If you buy a carb for your application, you should have no reason to be changing metering rods or jets.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43031 posts
Posted on 11/2/15 at 9:49 pm to
They're kind of like engines. Once you have a basic understanding of how they work, you can wing the rest
This post was edited on 11/2/15 at 9:50 pm
Posted by Redbone
between St. Amant and Port Vincent
Member since Sep 2012
20738 posts
Posted on 11/2/15 at 10:23 pm to
Buying the correct carb for a particular vehicle meant an easy swap back in the day but usually an unnecessary one. Carbs are rebuildable. Take it apart, soak the hard parts in a solvent overnight and use new gaskets and associated small parts from the rebuild kit. Remember where everything came from and where the rods, springs and cables were. Not all carbs have metering rods. I hate those things. It took me 1.5 hours just to line up the 2 rods on a Thermoquad.

That being said, tuning a car that didn't originally come on an application is nearly impossible for the typical shade tree mechanic and completely impossible for those that can out every tool they have in a drawer in the kitchen. There is no place to get degrees on this. Just learning from others and lots of experience.

So here is my take on this:
"It always seems like people talk about carburetors like you have to have a few degrees to be able to fix one."
I didn't have to get any degrees but the "fix one" lets me know I would have to teach you (hands on) what can go wrong with them before addressing this properly.
"If someone says an old car has a bad carb, can you just buy a new one and throw it on top of the engine?"
Yes providing you buy the exact carb for that engine and year but as I said, rebuild the old one is much cheaper.
"Or does every one have to be dialed in just right?"
If it isn't an exact replacement the novice should consider finding some experienced help. Carbs are a thing of the past and carb tuners are getting hard to find.
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
76202 posts
Posted on 11/2/15 at 10:26 pm to
Carburetor is a French word literally meaning "don't frick with me".

Fuel injection unless you are a tin hat or doing a period-appropriate restoration.
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15818 posts
Posted on 11/2/15 at 10:30 pm to
quote:

"If someone says an old car has a bad carb, can you just buy a new one and throw it on top of the engine?" Yes providing you buy the exact carb for that engine and year but as I said, rebuild the old one is much cheaper.


I've messed around with old VWs for years. The new carbs are Chinese junk. Give me a 40 year old German carb to rebuild and it will run like like it's supposed to.
Posted by Spankum
The Sip
Member since Jan 2007
63319 posts
Posted on 11/2/15 at 10:44 pm to
they weren't difficult to rebuild at all...basically just cleaning a bunch of shite and replacing gaskets...

pretty difficult to get everything adjusted correctly, as there are a few different mechanisms in a carb that all kick in at different points in the acceleration curve...
Posted by Traveler
I'm not late-I'm early for tomorrow
Member since Sep 2003
26621 posts
Posted on 11/2/15 at 10:55 pm to
quote:

Carbs are a thing of the past and carb tuners are getting hard to find.


Agree with everything you said. Have you ever tuned a Demon carb? Had to look far and wide until I finally found a guy that knew the secret magic in making it work in all settings. If he dies anytime soon, I guess I'll just throw it away
Posted by BoostAddict
Member since Jun 2007
3264 posts
Posted on 11/2/15 at 11:06 pm to
Worst. Carb. Ever.
Carter 2 barrel on a Jeep 258 I6


Replaced with an 750cfm Edelbrock... with a Chevy 350 under it.
Posted by Sayre
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Nov 2011
5754 posts
Posted on 11/2/15 at 11:08 pm to
Carbs aren't that big of a deal. The more you work on them, the easier they are understand. It's becoming somewhat more of a lost art, but not completely so yet.

If you really want to make your head spin, look into mechanical fuel injection (the Weber version in particular is an engineering marvel)

Posted by ATL-TIGER-732
ATL
Member since Jun 2013
2291 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 1:42 am to
CARBURETOR CIRCUITS

This link will give you an idea of what you are getting yourself into....
Posted by Redbone
between St. Amant and Port Vincent
Member since Sep 2012
20738 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 8:10 am to
quote:

Have you ever tuned a Demon carb?


I believe that is a Carter Thermoquad like I had on my '73 Charger. It had a black plastic center section? Those were a bitch. They were very good on a hotrod but there just wasn't enough of them on the market anyone that I knew to figure them out. That was the worst metering rod setup I've ever seen and caused me to go strictly Holley.
Posted by Redbone
between St. Amant and Port Vincent
Member since Sep 2012
20738 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 8:22 am to
quote:

Carbs aren't that big of a deal. The more you work on them, the easier they are understand.


That kinda contradicts itself. The more you work on them, the more you gain those "degrees" he was talking about.
Posted by itawambadog
America, F Yeah!
Member since Nov 2007
21266 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 8:42 am to
I say go with a fuel injection conversion kit.
Posted by johnnyrocket
Ghetto once known as Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2013
9790 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 9:04 am to
emissions standards getting stricter it will be a thing of the past in a few years except still on low end engines such as generators and mowers.

I learned by going to industry schools for Kohler, Briggs, Kawasaki, Tohatsu, and Honda small engines.

Like everyone says in small engines walbro and Nikki make a lot of carbs and same carb may fit x amount of engines. Each engine has a slightly different setting. Not as bad as cars or outboards, but you do have to know how to adjust the carb. Now small walk behinds the carb on some really no more than a gasket on some lower end models.

Once you learn the basics of carb it gets easier. Now I went to school for outboards and small engines and have equipment to tune carbs for these products. Can I tune a car carb possibly but not as well as car mechanic who works with those types of
Carbs. Can car carb guy rebuild outboard carb? Yes, but when it comes to fine tuning carbs to work in sync they may not be able to be as precise as I would be.
Posted by Traveler
I'm not late-I'm early for tomorrow
Member since Sep 2003
26621 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 10:07 am to
Demon is/was(?) Barry Grant's company. I believe he was with Holley before starting his own busines. I have nothing against Holley's, but once we were able to finally get the Demon tuned on my engine, it seemed to respond better than in all throttle ranges than the Holley that was on it before.

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