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What's the deal with Chinese/Eastern medicine?

Posted on 1/13/20 at 2:22 pm
Posted by NeverRains
Texas
Member since Jun 2012
3010 posts
Posted on 1/13/20 at 2:22 pm
Is it legitimate? I know western medicine doesn't believe so, but it remains very prominent and popular with a lot of people in today's world.

I have terrible plantar fascitis in my feet, and I'm thinking about acupuncture
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29448 posts
Posted on 1/13/20 at 2:26 pm to
One of my friends in college was Asian and we were discussing philosophy one day and she told me that "logic is a western concept".

Really changed how I looked at some of their beliefs. Apparently it doesn't matter if it makes no logical sense they will still believe something like powdered rhino horn curing ED or making their penis bigger just because of how the horn is shaped.

Nevermind the fact that rhino horn is made from keratin which is the same thing as our fingernails.

Tldr: Asians dgaf about logic.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
34928 posts
Posted on 1/13/20 at 2:28 pm to
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Is it legitimate?

Yes. If you eat the heart of a dog you will be granted much strength and vitality.
This post was edited on 1/13/20 at 2:29 pm
Posted by Tbonepatron
Member since Aug 2013
8447 posts
Posted on 1/13/20 at 2:29 pm to
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powdered rhino horn


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making their penis bigger


Soooooo, got any powdered rhino horn I can borrow?
Posted by RC
Member since Apr 2009
957 posts
Posted on 1/13/20 at 2:31 pm to
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powdered rhino horn


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making their penis bigger


Soooooo, got any powdered rhino horn I can borrow?


If it were true then they wouldn’t still have to blur out their small peens in their porn.
Posted by Itismemc
LA
Member since Nov 2008
4713 posts
Posted on 1/13/20 at 2:33 pm to
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37401 posts
Posted on 1/13/20 at 2:36 pm to
What’s the deal? It’s fake. It’s all the placebo effect.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37401 posts
Posted on 1/13/20 at 2:36 pm to
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Asians dgaf about logic.


This is so counter intuitive
Posted by Chuker
St George, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2015
7544 posts
Posted on 1/13/20 at 2:40 pm to
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rhino horn is made from keratin which is the same thing as our fingernails.



So that is why I get hard when I chew my fingernails?
Posted by Caplewood
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2010
39156 posts
Posted on 1/13/20 at 2:42 pm to
Ok Jerry seinfeld
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
68440 posts
Posted on 1/13/20 at 2:43 pm to
Yet they’re awesome at math
Posted by Nigel Farage
South of the Mason-Dixon
Member since Dec 2019
1210 posts
Posted on 1/13/20 at 3:01 pm to
Its a racket and entire species will be destroyed this century because of Chinese greed. Environmentalists constantly blast the US and the west for environmental destruction but there has been no greater catalyst for climate change the extinction of entire species than the rise of the Chinese middle class.
Posted by CHSTigersFan
Charleston, Arkansas
Member since Jan 2005
2738 posts
Posted on 1/13/20 at 3:16 pm to
I know a lady who is an acupuncturist lots of people swear by it, and she makes good money doing it. I've thought about it but never done it.
Posted by Woodreaux
OC California
Member since Jan 2008
2790 posts
Posted on 1/13/20 at 3:24 pm to
Depends what you mean by legitimate.

You really might legitimately feel better after acupuncture treatments, but it would not exactly provide you with a solution that has a clear cause and effect based solution grounded in biochemistry and medicine as understand it.

There is a great deal of art, thought, skill and expertise that goes into the practice. It's just not a process which is well articulated in the western scientific paradigm.

In my experience, the more complicated a problem is (e.g. I also have bone spur drama): the harder it is to solve with exactly 1 tried and true solution. That's when crazy shite that shouldn't even help seem to work surprisingly well.
Posted by oleheat
Sportsman's Paradise
Member since Mar 2007
13424 posts
Posted on 1/13/20 at 3:26 pm to
Well, they seem to suck at birth control.....
Posted by Steadyhands
Slightly above I-10
Member since May 2016
6750 posts
Posted on 1/13/20 at 3:26 pm to
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have terrible plantar fascitis in my feet, and I'm thinking about acupuncture


You can go see a foot doctor and get custom insoles shaped to your feet. Takes about 10 minutes and you leave with them. I had the same problem, did that and have never had any issues since. Also makes every shoe extremely comfortable. I've had these for a couple years now with zero issues.
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 1/13/20 at 3:28 pm to
I don't know about Chinese, but I've personally seen an American Indian salve remove what several doctors and a surgeon couldn't remove on a relative's foot. The surgeon removed it and it came back. Surgeon couldn't help any further. Salve removed it in a few days. Never grew back. May seem minor, but it caused a lot of pain for a long time.
Posted by holdemtigahs
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2018
97 posts
Posted on 1/13/20 at 4:07 pm to
I'm currently getting dry needling done through my physical therapist. Which was described to me as the West's take on acupuncture.

I will say this, it is like 4 minutes of hell...but my neck and back feel 100 times better than before we started this treatment.

For legitimacy's sake, I'm receiving this treatment after being hit by an 18-wheeler. So treating muscle damage from bulging/herniated disc and severe whiplash.
Posted by LSUA 75
Colfax,La.
Member since Jan 2019
3700 posts
Posted on 1/13/20 at 4:10 pm to
Only benefit from acupuncture is due to placebo effect which is admittedly pretty powerful.
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 1/13/20 at 4:18 pm to
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One of my friends in college was Asian and we were discussing philosophy one day and she told me that "logic is a western concept".

Really changed how I looked at some of their beliefs. Apparently it doesn't matter if it makes no logical sense they will still believe something like powdered rhino horn curing ED or making their penis bigger just because of how the horn is shaped



That's part of it but another large part of it and this is the case with any old-school wisdoms or tribal societies, it's based on things that work in practice. These ancient cultures didn't have a concept of how things work but they knew what things worked.

Do you care how maggots clean your wounds or why? Do you care how some random plant gets rid of your fever or stomach pains? You only care that they do. It's a practical wisdom that's handed down through generations of trial and error. A lot of people died to get to that point testing shite that didn't work. That's the beauty of Western logic is that we can test and theorize and don't have to make those sacrifices but sometimes we're our own worst enemy and we lose sight of the practical nature of the world and get lost in our own theories.

We're also haughty about our own superiority in this approach and automatically dismiss anything thats not backed by evidence despite the fact that it may work in practice.
This post was edited on 1/13/20 at 4:19 pm
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