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re: Whatever happened to AMWAY?
Posted on 9/26/25 at 12:56 pm to LemmyLives
Posted on 9/26/25 at 12:56 pm to LemmyLives
quote:Yep, I had several women FB friends that were hot on the essential oils grift for a while. Then it went to obscure brands of makeup.
It's morphed into essential oils, candle, makeup, and all kinds of other shite. Just ask your wife about the "new discoveries" of her Facebook friends.
Posted on 9/26/25 at 1:02 pm to greygoose
kind of like Advocare
they opened brick and mortar shops to get rid of their inventory
they opened brick and mortar shops to get rid of their inventory
Posted on 9/26/25 at 1:15 pm to nicholastiger
Amway is owned by the DeVos family from Grand Rapids, Michigan if I am not mistaken. A lot of things in GR are named Amway-this and and that. Betsy DeVos was Trump's Sec. of Education in his first term as she does something else with charter schools too, but she must have pissed him off. Either way, the DeVos Family also owns the Orlando Magic basketball team and a few other houses throughout the country. So it must have paid off for them. They have not been as lucky in politics though. The husband, Dick, tried to run for Governor of Michigan a few elections ago and lost.
Posted on 9/26/25 at 1:29 pm to moontigr
They were calling it Quixtar for a while back in the early 2000's.
They lost a fraud and racketeering lawsuit and may have retired that name now. A pyramid scheme by any other name...
They lost a fraud and racketeering lawsuit and may have retired that name now. A pyramid scheme by any other name...
Posted on 9/26/25 at 1:42 pm to SUB
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powder for some kind of chocolate
Positrim. I drank the hell out of that clumpy shite.
This post was edited on 9/26/25 at 3:09 pm
Posted on 9/26/25 at 1:47 pm to moontigr
How do you say Betsy DeVos, the one time SecEd for Donald Trump?
This post was edited on 9/26/25 at 1:48 pm
Posted on 9/26/25 at 1:48 pm to moontigr
Reminds me of Thrive I cut two people out my life over Thrive and other MLM bullshite.
Posted on 9/26/25 at 1:52 pm to moontigr
Back in the 90s I had a secretary and her husband pushing Amway really hard. Kept calling me at home and trying to set up meetings. They wouldn't take no for an answer. Eventually after me giving every excuse/rejection possible, the husband says "Well, its alright because you probably wouldn't qualify anyway." I chuckled. It struck me as a line that they learned at some seminar as a last ditch effort to challenge people so that they will want to "prove" that they have what it takes to sell Amway. Or maybe I really didn't have what it takes to sell Amway.
Posted on 9/26/25 at 1:52 pm to facher08
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Positrim. I drank they thr hell out of that clumpy shite.
Yep. I believe that was it. It was pretty damn good and yeah it was clumpy.
Posted on 9/26/25 at 2:04 pm to moontigr
You should have told him AMWAY? Hell no!
Posted on 9/26/25 at 2:05 pm to moontigr
One of the biggest scams/ponzi schemes leashed upon mankind.
Posted on 9/26/25 at 2:11 pm to moontigr
There is book about it in PDF format that you can read online. It's written by a guy who was heavily involved in Amway. The real money was in recording and selling motivational (i.e., self help) tape recordings and speaking at Amway events. It has been several years since I read it, but it was compelling.
It definitely was/is a cult.
Merchants of Deception
It definitely was/is a cult.
Merchants of Deception
Posted on 9/26/25 at 2:15 pm to moontigr
frick Amway. Destroyed my mom & dad's finances and then marriage.
Biggest scam in the world. But they used cult like brainwashing techniques to keep my parents in it even when it was obvious it was bleeding our family dry to enrich their upline diamonds.
Biggest scam in the world. But they used cult like brainwashing techniques to keep my parents in it even when it was obvious it was bleeding our family dry to enrich their upline diamonds.
Posted on 9/26/25 at 2:20 pm to SUB
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My parents got convinced to do Amway in the mid 90's by a neighbor / friend. As a kid, I hated Amway. It meant that my parents had to spend lots of extra time going to "Night Owl" meetings, where I guess they discussed strategy with other people in their "lines", that is their "uplines" and "downlines" as they called it. I also had to tag along for conferences in Houston, and "picnics" at parks, along with "product pickups" every week, where you'd go pick up the products you ordered for yourself and for samples to give to people they were trying to sell to. At product pickups, they also had all these tapes of people giving speeches at conference that they were selling. These were the "Diamonds", the most successful in Amway. Come to find out later, that these folks were rich because they were talented speakers and made so much money selling tapes to all the Amway minions who bought up every single one of them.
It was like a cult almost, and I resented my parents for a long time for doing it. I still loved them, of course, but it all seemed so weird to me and I wanted no part of it. I witnessed on several occasions my parents trying to convince relatives and parents of friends to join their downline, and it was embarrassing. Almost every time, they would ask to stop being bothered by my parents about Amway. It made things pretty awkward.
As for the products? Their hair and beauty products were supposed to be good. The food products were ok...nothing too special. We had lots of boxed juices, snacks, powder for some kind of chocolate drink, and other stuff.
Eventually, Amway shifted online in the early 00's to something called Quixtar. At that point, I guess my parents had enough of it and stopped participating. They still bought some of the products...mainly my mom liked the beauty stuff. I'm not sure how they came out financially in the end. I'm assuming they probably broke even because I never noticed any big financial strain. I need to ask them because I've always been curious.
Mid 90s in Houston, shite we probably hung out as kids at some Amway convention(or function as the Amway cult called it) back in the day. I remember going to Lake Texoma specifically.
You got everything right on the nose. The big lie Amway tells is that the diamonds made all their money by selling their products. Wrong. They made all their money selling tapes(called tools back in the day), CDs, and tickets to these functions (as well as the hotel rooms, airfare, etc.). The diamonds got a cut of every single fricking tape, hotel room, convention ticket, and such that was sold. That's where the real money was made.
And the upline diamonds would NOT take no for an answer. Even though my family was broke and could not afford to go to yet another Amway funciton to just sit there all weekend and listen to diamonds on stage talk about how they were nobodies before Amway and struck it rich via Amway - they were still pressured heavily by the upline diamonds to do whatever it took to buy that ticket and hotel room. Otherwise you weren't committed enough.
It truly was a cult. My parents finally broke free around the year 2000 but the damage was done.
I hope Dexter Yager and Bill Britt are burning in the deepest depths of hell right now.
Posted on 9/26/25 at 2:24 pm to Trevaylin
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once they alienated all their friends and co-workers trying to sell them stuff, the business just did not work
Then they moved over to selling insurance…
Posted on 9/26/25 at 2:29 pm to nicholastiger
quote:Yep. A certain, former Saints QB was their spokesperson. Got hit up for that snake oil a bunch too, and used him as an example of legitamacy.
kind of like Advocare
they opened brick and mortar shops to get rid of their inventory
Posted on 9/26/25 at 2:34 pm to goldennugget
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Mid 90s in Houston, shite we probably hung out as kids at some Amway convention(or function as the Amway cult called it) back in the day.
Hah. I specifically remember staying at a Hyatt in Houston with a rotating restaurant on the roof. At least I think it rotated?
The worst was the years of sitting in the car with my parents and having to endure those tapes. I remember specifically in 7th grade or so…some douche on the tape was talking about “Dreams” over and over. Amway and its diamond speakers always pushed that word a lot…making your dreams come true. I had enough that day and told my mom that “dreams are for losers” and she did not take too kindly to that.
This post was edited on 9/26/25 at 2:35 pm
Posted on 9/26/25 at 2:36 pm to LemmyLives
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It's morphed into essential oils, candle, makeup, and all kinds of other shite. Just ask your wife about the "new discoveries" of her Facebook friends.
white women...
Posted on 9/26/25 at 2:36 pm to moontigr
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So, what happened to all of those people who go invested w/ Amway? I assume they all made huge profits and retired early?
I think they moved on to selling stereo speakers and steaks out of the back of their vans.
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