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re: What would the United States be like today if slavery had never occurred?

Posted on 8/18/15 at 11:18 am to
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 8/18/15 at 11:18 am to
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Considering the Confederate States were funded by the Central Banks of Europe which were trying to destabilize the American landscape in order to get a Central Bank founded in the United States (which Lincoln was firmly against), then yes, I stand by my assertion that the Civil War wasn't about slavery.

If by "moron" you mean very educated then I will certainly agree with you.


Killz, have you ever read any of the Declarations of Causes for Secession by the states in the confederacy?
Posted by weagle99
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Posted on 8/18/15 at 11:19 am to
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Big Scrub TX



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And there he is.



Posted by sjmabry
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 8/18/15 at 11:21 am to
Another slavery thread...how original.
We don't know what the US would be like today w/o slavery, but y'all go ahead and speculate
Posted by CoachDon
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Posted on 8/18/15 at 11:26 am to
This exact thread has been done within the past 3-4 months. Missoukills and Rex need to hold hands and jump the frick off a cliff together.
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 8/18/15 at 11:26 am to
NYCAuburn

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Killz, have you ever read any of the Declarations of Causes for Secession by the states in the confederacy?



I haven't but I will check it out.
Posted by BamaScoop
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Member since May 2007
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Posted on 8/18/15 at 11:27 am to
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Sure Chinese people built early America.

You really think they were treated better than a slave?

All they were was just another for of slave class at that time.



The difference is they appreciated what they were being given. For many of them it was a better life and a life that they chose.

The blacks were fricked because they didn't choose a different life they were forced into slavery and that is bullshite. They ,may have been content in a mud hut with a bone through their nose so who were we or anybody else to think we had a right to disrupt that.
Posted by StarkRebel
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 8/18/15 at 11:28 am to
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Pro sports wouldn't be as good


Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 8/18/15 at 11:41 am to
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which I eluded to in the OP.


alluded

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which in a morbid way made our infrastructure strong


Irish immigrants did more to build the infrastructure. They built the railroads and were paid mostly in whiskey.
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 8/18/15 at 11:42 am to
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They ,may have been content in a mud hut with a bone through their nose so who were we or anybody else to think we had a right to disrupt that.



That may be true.

However, I wonder how modern black Americans would react if they were to actually visit western Africa and then suddenly be told that they couldn't return to the United States....
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 8/18/15 at 11:55 am to
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However, I wonder how modern black Americans would react if they were to actually visit western Africa and then suddenly be told that they couldn't return to the United States.


Why would you wonder something so stupid? How many black Americans have you seen agitating to move to Africa?
Posted by mizzoukills
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Posted on 8/18/15 at 12:09 pm to
Posted by Big Scrub TX
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Posted on 8/18/15 at 12:11 pm to
No answer. Got it.
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 8/18/15 at 12:15 pm to
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No answer. Got it.



You've never heard any black American in person or on TV reflect on a move back to Africa?

Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 8/18/15 at 12:19 pm to
Do you think they'd prefer the free food, housing, utilities, phones, Internet, schooling, entertainment, spending money, etc. That those who know how to work the system can get here?

Or subsistence living in a mud hut in darkest Africa?

I mean, there's tribal warfare in both but it's an undeniable fact that the population growth of subsaharan-African descendants was helped tremendously from their importation. Especially since they Had not developed any maritime technologies (or really much of anything. Hard to develop science without a written language.)
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 8/18/15 at 12:20 pm to
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Very good point. The exploitation of labor wasn't limited to slavery, although that was by far the most egregious form of labor exploitation. 



just like Mexicans were allowed to come and go as they pleased to work on farms in the western states.
Posted by baobabtiger
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 8/18/15 at 12:21 pm to
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It is a fact that slavery is the best thing that could have ever happened to provide opportunity for blacks in America today. There would be no Ben Carsons, Oprah Winfrey's, Michael Jordons, etc., had it not been for slavery.

The black population today is a huge burden on our society for the most part. There are many great black people in the US but the good does not outweigh the bad. They are mostly a burden. Based on the population of blacks in this country they are irrelevant.


This.
Posted by LSU8654722
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 8/18/15 at 12:22 pm to
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What would the United States be like today if slavery had never occurred?


It wouldn't have all the mizzoukills race baiting threads.
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 8/18/15 at 12:22 pm to
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Serious question with no racist angle.


You knew exactly what you were doing with this thread.
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 8/18/15 at 12:25 pm to
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What would the United States be like today if slavery had never occurred?


The NBA would have a bunch of gym rats, coaches sons, blue-collar workers, and cerebral players.
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 8/18/15 at 12:27 pm to
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The NBA would have a bunch of gym rats, coaches sons, blue-collar workers, and cerebral players.


I doubt the NBA would exist in as popular a form as it does. Good fundamentals don't make exciting basketball, aka the WNBA.
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