re: What would it take for you to move to the north?

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Sounds like from this statement your family doesn't own the business, the business owns your family.

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I'll put it this way. The company itself started during WWII as a war effort. Before that the family business was meat packing and lard, very large, eventually sold to oscar Meyer. It's not a family need. The problem has been selling it for what it should be worth. Old school
Manufacturing just doesn't have the market. They do 30+ million in revenue a year, but trying to find offers is hard. Especially when people see Chinese production out there

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Do you want to and can you run the business? Answer honestly. If the answer is negative to either part of that question, then do everyone a favor and tell them you aren't in for it. I've seen family relationships permanently ruined from situations like you describe. The possiblility of your relocation to Ohio is secondary to this first point.

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Relocation is my primary concern. Running the business is negligible. I think I could do a better job then dad. He is a bit too nice when it comes to the business.

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The problem has been selling it for what we think it should be worth.

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Has there recently been a professional independent valuation done on the business?

Without knowing the exact business, I couldn't guess whether what you all think it should bring is realistic.

You all could engage a firm to assist you in selling, of course that costs but those marketing firms do that for a living every business day.

I've been on both sides of the buying and selling situation of businesses. It can be difficult to accept that a business is not worth what you think it's worth or what it was formerly worth. (Not that your situation is necessarily like that, but it might apply).

But from the purchaser's perspective, a potential buyer simply can't overpay for a business, especially a concern that is potentially susceptible to cheap foreign competition.

Good luck.

Just had some friends in from Dayton. They said downtown is starting to clean up. Oak wood is nice or you could always get a piece of land out of town in the country. I always liked the areas north of Englewood.

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I hope to become a corporate attorney one day. I hate the north, but I don't hate it enough to turn down a job that pays great (100K plus) money. I wouldn't mind living in New York

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You would need a helluva lot more than 100k a year to live comfortably in NY.

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Just had some friends in from Dayton. They said downtown is starting to clean up.

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It is, but it is still bad in many parts. It's not like New Orleans where people are getting robbed and hurt, but there is a lot of Heroin. A lot. So you have a lot of bums/addicts everywhere and their non violent theft/crimes. They are planing a highline railway to bikepath project as well. We have about 500 yards of property along it, so there is that future potential in the back of my mind as well

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Oak wood is nice

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Oakwood is nice, but old

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get a piece of land out of town in the country

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you can definitely get some small/large parcels within a decent drive(1/2 hour) of downtown.

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I always liked the areas north of Englewood.

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Englewood and trottwood used to the nice side of town(prior to the 70/80's) Southside is the best side now.

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Are we talking Winterfell North or the Wall North?

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Winterfell...

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I lived in Iowa for 4 years and loved it. Honestly, it would just take comparable jobs to what my wife and I have now

Ohio is not too bad. The attitude of some is very northern, but it's not far enough north that I wouldn't consider it, especially if it's a stable opportunity.